dai_hunter

Several things strike me as interesting in the story:

"...Keyser Cooper [Hale's atty] says she has encountered similar problems with the Sparks police before, including a case of an officer breaking a camera...."

Think there might be a pattern there with the SPD?

and much, MUCH, more notably

"...The garage was rented by the Sparks Nugget during the fireworks...."

Interestingly, in these circumstances the Nugget could have prevented / prohibited photography in the same way that a sports club or concert organiser can so do if they rent a publicly owned arena or stadium and while their control of the facility is in effect. The instant status of the garage was probably that of a "private place" - IN SPITE OF IT BEING LEGALLY OWNED BY THE CITY - and indeed the guard did ask for Hale to stop photographing to which direction Hale initially complied.

Hale WAS informed and on notice by the agent (guard) acting for his employer the Nugget (person/company in control of the premises at the time) not to take (any additional) photos. It was only on the second instance when the guard saw Hale again taking photos that he acted to prevent Hale from photographing and then called the police - whereupon the only real action open to the Nugget or the police would have been to ask Hale (and friend) to leave the garage or be charged with trespass. A point noted by atty Cooper acting for Hale in the article.

Readers, here, shouldn't be lead to think that this case is one that opens a free-for-all in public places like this when the status does change temporarily - even though you may not be aware of that fact and have no advance notice of it.

Granted the security guard tried to seize the camera - WRONG MOVE! - but did call the police - CORRECT MOVE! - whereupon the police acted inappropriately and to their discredit.

Of additional interest and it would be interesting to know - where was the news crew that filmed the two before and while being put in the police car - inside the garage or outside on a public street? "...television camera crew shot footage of the two men while they were seated handcuffed and as they were being put into a police car..."

DON'T BE LULLED INTO A FALSE SENSE OF SECURITY, OR WORSE ONE OF SOME KIND OF GENERAL ALL ENCOMPASSING EMPOWERMENT, BY THIS CASE. Your "rights" to photograph [or not] may very well change, or be different, in other towns, cities or states and in similar circumstances but where the actions of the guard or the police are more appropriate to the occasion.

Hunter

or this one?

http://www.johndavidgeery.com/watchful%20ewes.htm

Is the the one?

http://www.vertechinc.com/archive/winter1(7)/farquarson.htm

edmo . , apr 21, 2005; 09:36 p.m. said: Edward, youre only partially right. probably not the case with Prada but certain buildings in NYC do own the sidewalk or part of it.

Simple... step off the curb [preferably between two parked cars so you don't get whacked by traffic] or shoot across his private patch of sidewalk from someone else's patch of private sidewalk.

Hunter

Eugene Zaikonnikov , apr 20, 2005; 03:34 a.m.

Andrew, LOL :) said: "Johnatan, think of it as of safari, with people on the street being animals in their habitat. At a zoo you aware that lions and monkeys are wathching you, but it is unlikely to cause you much discomfort."

Yes, but at the zoo there are bars... big... thick... heavy... bars between "them" and "you." ;-) LOL

Hunter

Tim Holte Photo.net Patron, apr 19, 2005; 06:36 a.m. said: I have always wondered why celebrities (movie stars, politicians etc) deserve any privacy. Most of them did everything in their power to get in front of a lens when they were not famous and, all of a sudden, when they became famous, they discovered that they wanted their privacy....

It's NOT privacy they crave it's getting paid for the priviledge of taking their picture... as soon as some manager or lawyer convinces them they have such a thing as "image rights" and therefore that their likeness is worth something. "Rights" that don't really exist widely in law, or can't exist even in a lawyer's wet dream, in many countries.

I have no sympathy for them whatsoever, either.

Hunter

Problem is that some minimum wage dude, without even a HS diploma, in Podunk, Iowa will actually believe that killing the snapper(s) IS the appropriate response to street work.

For another view see this article:

http://beta.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050417/ap_on_go_ot/in_the_lens_1

Surveillance Cameras More Common Everyday

By SIOBHAN McDONOUGH, Associated Press WriterSun Apr 17,12:39 PM ET

"It's there when you ride an elevator and make a purchase in a store. There's no escaping it in a museum. Look up at the stoplight and a camera may be watching you.

Being lens-shy just doesn't cut it in today's camera-crazed world. Chances are, during a good part of your day, there's a camera nudging into your private space...." (read balance of art on-line)

Hunter

Some good shots there... going in the right direction. But that hair!!! Fixing it with a blowtorch comes to mind.

Couple of the new shots with more bulky [oversize] clothes do seem to hide his physical shortcomings to better effect than the first two samples you posted.

Hunter

You can try this - I don't have a bad image to work with but try it anyway with one of yours. If it will process the image AT ALL it should correct the marker segment in the converted [output] image:

Go to: http://www.fileformat.info/index.htm

In the upper right menu = Image Conversions - select/click: Common

Enter image location in the browse bar

Select: convert the image [do this one at a time] from "[original format]" to "jpg" [or "tif"] and then tic "download." Then click "save."

You will be prompted where to save. Try one and save it to the desktop (or some place easy to find the resulting file) and it will have the name "output.***" where "***" is the file extention you selected to convert to (jpg or tif).

Then... see if you can open it normally via Windows; an image browser; or PS-CS

I don't guarantee it will work but it's worth a try.

Hunter

I do own a jacket and a tie... I even own a dinner jacket. At least I think I do. I saw them around here a couple of years ago, I seem to recall. :-)

Hunter

Bill Thorlin , apr 11, 2005; 02:21 p.m. noted: No offence intended just that I like a 3 course meal and Rome was a banquet.

Bill, for many working PJs in the field a "three course meal" is two BigMacs and a coffee. LOL

Hunter

This is, I swear, a true story - working on the street in a not so good neighbourhood and dressed down to a scruffy level with camera concealed under the fly of my jacket, a colleague asked me:

Him: "Why are you dressed like that?"

Me: "It's my anti-mugging disguise."

Him: "Whats' to mug?"

Me: "See, it works."

LOL ;-)

Hunter

Looks like he could use a good meal... or three. I have one "waif-like" male model I have been working with - fortunately he didn't want a specifically manly look for his book exactly because he was trading on the "waif" features of his appearence. Others have suggested several good fixes, in some cases non-fixes (work with what you got) and I guess I have nothing more to add to those comments.

Hunter

I have noted this before, though some here dispute me on this, that the US Postal Service is KNOWN to own a number of high energy electron beam mail sterilisation systems installed after the anthrax incidents. These are believed to be installed and used at nodal points in the mail distribution system. Their use, location or extent of use is completely unknown in any detail. Thery may be used on letter and small packet mail but other applications are neither documented nor excluded.

According to the Smithsonian Institution and through tests they conducted, or that were conducted on their behalf, these systems, if and when used, are capable of doing (at least) the following: altering pigments on artwork; altering the colours on/in glass and natural mineral crystals; fogging film beyond use; damaging photographic negatives, positives, and even prints; creating sufficient heat to fuse multiple pages of Xerox type documents (toner based printing); creating sufficient heat to distort trannys and plastic mounts; damaging solid state media (e.g. hard drives and camera cards); damaging data contained on data CDs... and other effects both at the atomic level and through process generated heat.

Further, electron beam systems aside, the extent of general mail x-ray surveillence, by postal or customs authorities, is a complete unknown in the US context or in respect of any other particular country.

The alternative is shipping via the air freight / parcel services - UPS; DHL Worldwide; Emery; or others. B&H should be able to recommend a method of shipping they are confident of, as well as clearly marking the nature of the package contents to attempt to avoid damage to photographic media.

Hunter

Bill Thorlin , apr 11, 2005; 05:14 a.m.noted on Naples: ...On our final approach she removed all her rings and jewellery and hid them on her person and told us they would not see the light of day until she returned to England....

Oh well... relative risk is... well... relative.

Any of the European cities mentioned are definately safer than, say, the eastern parts of the DRCongo, or Uganda, or Cote d'Ivory... and the list is nearly endless.

An open display of status or wealth, and often just looking like a tourist, can get you into trouble anywhere. The secret is to be a cultural chameleon and blend in visually with your surroundings even where you lack the ability to speak the local language.

Hunter

Looks like blocks of missing pixels.

1) Does it happen on EVERY image?

2) Are the image defects in the SAME place every time?

3) Have you tried MINIMISING the image on screen (not minimising PS itself) and then opening/expanding it again? If the missing pixels return OR the pattern changes it is most likely a system problem and possibly low RAM, low scratch memory, or image handling in the accelerator on the video card (probably set to maximum by default - but not handling the image data properly at that setting)

Hunter

Beau Hooker Photo.net Patron, apr 10, 2005; 07:44 p.m.said: How about each model with an ice-pick, about to stab the model in front of her in the back? ;-)

ROTFLMAO - how true!

Hunter

Nikos said: For your next trip, try Naples...

Ahhh! Napoli... sigh! Yes, yes... and as they say: see Naples and die (because you will have seen the best place on earth so you need look no further)

And they are the original and spiritual home of pizza as well.

Hunter

[who never met a pizza I didn't like]

Paris? YUCH! Been there, done that and usually get out of that city as fast as I can transfer to another A/C. If I am absolutely, positively, forced to overnight I seldom even bother going beyond the airport hotels any more.

Want some real adventure? Try Marseille (aka the Chicago of France - think "gangsters" and "street life" here, but at least it has some character about it, and the taxi drivers, et al, are a lot less rude too)

France is not Paris and Paris is certainly NOT France. ANYWHERE BUT PARIS! LOL

Hunter