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It depends on the condition of the lens and the brand of the multi coated UV filter. The best price for a new Canon 17-40 is $679 with $50 rebate, or $629.

<i>My final comment, don't underestimate the value of IS. It is worth the extra cost, especially on these telephotos. Neill Farmer</i><b>

Save more money and get the 70-200 f/4L IS.

I bought one <a href="http://search.ebay.com/Kenko-1-4X-Canon_Cameras-Photo_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQsacatZ625QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsatitleZKenkoQ201Q2e4XQ20CanonQQssPageNameZRC0022">here</a> for my Canon 70-300. It works nicely.

<i> My view is that if you cannot afford a good L-series lense, then why spend 3000 USD on camera body?</i><p>

Those people read this forum everyday and are crazy about the 5D. The problem is that they have only $200 left after spending $3000 on a 5D. I have seen people living in a million dollar house with junk yard furniture or buying a $2000 applifier with a pair of Sony speakers.<p>

They live.

Don't even think. Send it back.

Please be patient. The new 5D replacement is coming. $600 rebate is a fair deal, not a good deal, and absolutely not the best deal.

Buy <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=Search&A=details&Q=&sku=470438&is=USA&addedTroughType=search">here</a>.

I bought one from <a href="http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&from=R10&satitle=Kenko+1.4&sacat=625%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=08003&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1&fsoo=1">here</a>. It works well

Canon L lenses are designed for professional photographers where marginal superior could cost them a business deal. If you aren't a pro or don't have extra money to burn, stay away from L lenses and buy the Tamron lenses that are good enough for daily use. However, saying Tamron lenses are as good as Canon L lenses is not true. Canon L lens owners know why they want to spend money for the lenses. The key word is as <b>good</b> as. You should spend some time to browse around this forum and to find more information about Tamron lenses and Canon L lenses.

I second Peter. You budget isn't enough for a 5D and lenses. You will hear from Canon by February 07. Many new Canon DSLRs will hit the market expecially the successor of the 5D. Just be patient and wait. You still can buy the 5D by then the same price or even lower without rebate.

Buy two of these three lenses.<br>

1. 24-105 f/4 IS<br>

2. 70-200 f/4 IS<br>

3. 35 f/1.4

The Canon EF 24-70 f2.8L

Unless you plan to use the lens with a tripod most of the time or have very excellent skills to hold the camera and lens, forget both non IS options. spend $550 for the 70-300 IS or $1250 for the 70-200 f/4 IS or $1600 for the 70-200 f/2.8 IS. You can compare between the 24-70 f/2.8 and the 24-105 f/4 IS because under 100mm, hand holding is possible. To me, beyond 100mm without IS is not practical. I have the 24-105 and still keep my 24-70 for indoor running kids. But I sold the 70-200 f/4 and replaced with the new 70-300 IS. I will wait for a couple of months or until Dell is offering 20% off to buy the new 70-200 f/4 IS. The 70-200 f/2.8 IS has never been on my list becasue of its size and weight. To me the 24-70 is bulky and heavy enough to carry around.

I have just tested my 24-70 with the Kenko 1.4x Teleplus Pro 300. The autofocus is as fast as without the TC. Since the 24-70 is big, long and heavy, adding the TC will make the lens even longer and thus more difficult to hold the camera, lens and TC combination. I think the 24-105 is much better if you want longer reach.

The lens I received has plastic mount, no distance scale, and no separate manual focus ring. The front of the lens shows, "CANON LENS EF 50mm 1:1.8 II" and "CANON LENS MADE IN JAPAN". I was surprised because I thought KEH was a reputable dealer and because the explanation was from a KEH Sales Manager.

Last month KEH listed a used Canon 50mm f/1.8 I for $99. I thought it was a

good deal, so I bought it. A week later, I received a used Canon 50mm f/1.8 II

that was exactly the same as the one I have. So I called KEH and returned

it.<p>

I had no problem to return the wrong lens. I wanted them to know that they

sent me a worng lens. However, they insisted that they had sent me the correct

one. Below is their explanation:<p>

Phillip;<br>

Beacause you are a first time customer, it is important to fully

understand this transaction. We are able to pull up the complete record

of your web purchase. That is what I did. Canon made three versions of

the lens. The original was made with both a metal mount for a while and

then a plastic mount. The new version (II) also has a plastic mount. The

metal mount version sells for $159.00 in EX condition, the plastic mount

of the first version for $99, and the newer cheaper version new for

$73.95.<p>

Bill Hansen, KEH Sales Manager<p>

I don't think there was a lens called Canon 50mm f/1.8 I with plastic mount.

Would you correct me if I'm wrong?

<a href="http://www.author-works.com/media/media-19837.pdf"><u>Canon Fall 2006 Rebates</u></a>

When everyone is selling list price, look for Dell's coupon. I bought this lens on 4/5/06 from Dell using 15% off coupon + $60 stackable coupon + 2% off preferred Dell credit card and paid $980.20 - $50 Canon rebate = $920.20 with free shipping. B&H was selling $1249 + $16 S/H, $344.80 higher than I paid. I think this lens should be priced at $950 and the 24-70 should be at $1100. The cost of making the 24-105 is much lower than making the 24-70. I agree that we don't wait a year or two for a price drop. Canon is charging the same whole sale price most of the time. The preminum goes to dealers. That is why Dell can offer such deep discount for certain lenses. Look at the street price of the 24-70 for the last two years. It has been almost the same at &1150 except B&H power save offer. In addition, if you plan to buy a Canon L lens, buy it with Canon triple rebates. For example, just <b>do not</b> buy the Canon 5D now or you will paid at least $500 higher.

<i>He has been doing this with two old Nikon primes, a 28mm and a 90mm.</i><p>

Unfortunately he isn't Sam Abel, so he needs more than two prime lenses. :)<p>

You will definitely keep the 17-40 and 50. Replace the 28-105 with the new 24-105 now. Replace the 70-200 f/1.8 with the coming 70-200 f/4 IS next year. You can at any time buy the 100 macro to use as a macro and protrait lens on a 1.6x DSLR.<p>

I think three f/4 17-40, 24-105 IS and 70-200 IS is a killer set. In addition, 50 f/1.8 II, 100 macro, and 300 f/4 IS with 1/4x TC is a very nice prime set.

A&M Photo World is another online name of Broadway Photo. We all knew except you. You'll have to keep your camera without warranty. If you return the camera, it'll take a very long time to see your money back. Check <a href="http://www.resellerratings.com/seller1995.html">here</a> for their rating.

<i>That is, I forsee IS disappearing in the normal zoom range, maybe within a few years.</i><p>

Do you think Canon didn't know that Sony would release the Alpha with body stabilizer? Do you really believe Canon spent several years research to release two IS zooms EF 24-105 and EF-S 17-55 to just sell them in a few years? Canon could introduce an entry level DSLR with body IS to be used with consumer grade lenses such as 18-55 or 17-85.

Canon 30D is not a true upgrade from 20D thus won't stay long on the market. 3D, 5Ds, and 7D are coming soon or later.

This is absolutely not a good time to upgrade your 10D. A series of new DSLR will be introducing within 6 months. They could be 400D, 40D, 5Ds, 3D, 2D, 1Ds Mark III. The 400D or Rebel XTi has been introduced. We don't know if Canon will have the 40D in February 2007. But I'm pretty sure that we'll see the successor of 5D. We'll know by looking at Canon annual rebate list that I believe will be available soon. For example, if Canon put $500 on the 5D, the 5Ds is definitely coming. If no rebate on 30D, then we won't see the 40D soon. If you think the 5D is good enough but too expensive, you'll have a chance to buy it at a very good price soon. On top of that, the triple rebates will be exciting this year if Canon offers this fall. Take a very close look on the new XTi. Those features will be typical for coming DSLR and will make all current models history.<p>Continue to enjoy your 10D for 4 - 6 months and wait.

Did you try to take a picture with the Sigma 17-70 f/2.8-4.5 DC Macro? You should sell the Sigma and buy three Canon prime lenses: 35 f/1.4L, 50 f/1.2L, and 85 f/1.2L II. You also need two more zoom lenses: 16/35 f/2.8 and 70-200 f/2.8. I don't know what you want to do besides wedding. You might want to add the 24-105 f/4L IS and 70-200 f/4L IS as well. By the way, pick up the STE2 Speedlite transmitter and a couple of the Speedlite 580 EX flashes.

<i>I'd like many things but I'd settle for a 30% to 50% price reduction on the current ones.</i><p>Price reduction only exists in your dreams. DSLR will be cheaper and better, but lenses will cost higher. Do you know how much the Sony 70-200mm f/2.8 SSM Lens is? Now we know that Canon was working on 4 L lense recently: 24-105, 70-200, 85, and 50, and we can easily see why. People were screaming about two zoom lenses for a very long time, the 85 has slow focus, and there was no 50 L lens aftert the death of the 50 f/1.0. Now Canon has vertually every L zoom lens in each focal range.<p>

I bet you that if Canon set the coming 70-200 f/4L IS at $1350, they still can sell a truckload of them. Bedises the quality and IS, people will buy this lens for one reason: weight. I would pay $2000 for a 70-200 f/2.8L IS if Canon can design this lens less than 1 kg. Now we have an ideal f/4 set: 17-40, 24-105, and 70-200. I would care less if Canon add IS to the 17-40. You might think there are too much overlapings in this set. I don't think so because overlaping means less lens changes, and it is good. Bob was right when saying that Canon sells one 300 prime lens for every fifty 70-200 zoom lenses. Do not expect this lens will be cheaper at least for a year or even longer. This is a very hot lens. I only have one complain: 67mm. But I think I can live with it because I won't mount it on a tripod often. You were right when saying Canon L lenses are addictive. I paid high price for a Canon L lens for its build quality, amazingly fast and quiet MF, and IS especailly for a long zoom. I don't use the 300 f/4L IS often, but I'll keep this lens for a long time.<p>I also understand that most of us will buy a non-L lens at 1/3 of a L lens price despite the less-than-perfect build and optic qualities. Canon knows that very well. I believe they've listened to us and been working very hard to replace many aging non-L lenses soon. The 70-300 IS is an example.<p>Please be patient, and don't be surprised when you see the new 50 f/1.4 with $500 price tag.