chito_baclig

Let me think about selling the rebel 2000, 420Ex and bracket, now that you all mentioned about backups. The reason I was thinking of selling is to get zoom telephoto (70-200?) and primes for the group and portrait. But I read that the 200mm end of the 70-200 zoom is comperable to primes.

As for my IS that came with the body, I am bothered when the manual does not recommend action on this, which I thought was the main purpose. Hopefully walking couples in the church isle is not fast enough. I will be assisting today and this IS is not the main lens because I have not yet tested it. I will test it in this wedding and hope to get a good result and a need for an IS.

thanks,

jude

special thanks to this site for recommending one of its advertising store (i'll mention it if its proper). I mentioned this site and they will allow me to test lenses and return it if I am not satisfied. I already did to the 70-200mm F4 L. This is really a great lens (broke my heart to return it) but again, I need the 2.8 version indoors.

Yes, no IS. They are the same in optics quality.

jude

Hi all, I just started semi-pro photo jobs, I will be selling my

Rebel 2000 and accesories and have returned 70-200mm L F4. I now have

an EOS 3, 28-135 IS USM (macro) (bought in combo), 50mm F1.8 and

550ex. For wedding events what else do you recommend? This is both no

flash and flash, indoor and outdoor. My budget is not too tight.

thanks, jude

I agree to start with the 28-135 for your needs and avoid "IS" if you are to shoot action shots. My 28-135 USM IS manual does not recommend it. I own a rebel and used a 70-200mm L F4 with no issue. If you do not plan to use it as a main Pro gear, that is enough. I use the rebel 2000 on a very low budget events such as graduation parties and the result is terrific, who'd go wrong with a 70-200mm L?

jude

agree with Chris. Nothing more to say.

jude

Why telephoto? It was a solemn affair and as much as possible I try to go far and in the sideline, reason I was very disgusted that day for using the flash (I can't stop my pro boss, he uses flash always, most of his digital flash backup shots that day went to garbage). If only I came prepared, I could have very well rented primes (really hope to learn a lot from this).

From the facts you all have given which I am very greatfull, I am more towards selling/returning and go back to the drawing board, or maybe buy when I finish the class. What Petr said is what I am still considering though, buy 1 more prime 135mm f/2, I have the Canon 50mm 1.8II. Let me get back to my computer job and hope to see more later for more thoughts and hope I get less confuse (honestly, I believe I am getting bias with my 4L).

Thank you.

jude

I feel like returning my first pro Canon 70-200mm 4L for 2.8L but

costly still. I love this lens in brightly lit (sunny, outside). But

when I tried it with a Canon 550ex flash in a dimly lit large

Cathedral church (client was a Priest), the background is

underexposed (alot). At 200mm and the subject is far, the background

is almost correctly exposed (still underexposed) but at 70mm and the

subject is near, the background is almost pitch black. I am almost

embarassed to mentioned this but I used ISO 200 film which was the

only available film my boss brought (He videos, I photo. I told him

to bring ISO 400s but he said it is a bright church. He did not blame

me of the result). Another hard lesson, always bring spare.

On the good side, the object was perfectly exposed with a nice skin

tone. And the client was happy of the result (framing specially). It

is so much alive the mother said. But I really felt I could have done

better.

Since I do both outside (bright sunny days) and interiors (mostly

churches), the interior in general so far is unacceptable with flash.

I saw a pro with no flash that day taking pictures inside the church

and a zoom lens too and was told that he is a photojournalist. I want

to go back to that large church to test this lens with no flash like

him. I will use an ISO 400 (Fuji bought in Walmart), F4 aperture and

tripod. Now my problem is what shutter speed to use for 70, 85, 100,

135 and 200 mm that will correctly exposed the background on both far

and near focused object. Please advice on how to get the best result

using the right combination.

And again, I love this lens in all situations other than this dimly

lit church. If the skin tone was bad, I could have returned it, but I

hope I can still find a way to use in this situation. I also plan to

use this lens in my sister's wedding in March 2003, portrait at 135mm

(?). Hope to be better by then.

Thank you,

jude

- newbie in photo, hoping to be a pro

- will go to school this fall

Hope you all still there.

Bought the Canon 70-200 F4L, in my test, great in low light to almost none, with flash. I went and shoot a Client yesterday and today: a big cathedral and a small church with just ISO 200 (my boss forced me to, I am an assistant doing the photo and he shoots the video) with flash. He wants me to use the flash in a very solemn ceremony "priest confirmation" !!! I really have wished to be way on the sideline, almost unoticable, with just a zoom lens and a tripod and no flash. I have not seen the output yet, but I am sure it will come out well lighted because of the 550EX flash even when lens zoomed to 200mm.

And my question is:

1.) With just this F4L and a tripod and no flash and a dimly lit cathedral, what film and speed should I use for a professional output? Right now I only have a 50mm 1.8 prime and I want to prove to my boss that its worth it to have a few rolls too without the flash.

2.) Using in this cathedral, and other low lit, shall I return this lens and replace with 70-200 F2.8L? Or can the film speed compensate the F4.0. Money is not much of an issue, but I wish to buy the Canon 1v in the very near future and use my rebel as backup.

Your advice will be greatly appreciated. If I am not to replace the lens, I will surely go back to that cathedral and test.

Thank you in advance:)

Ric, you are right, the rebel 2000 held well.

You are right Simon. I attached the body to the tripod and used the 700gm lens, like a seesaw. I'll take the ring.

Thank you

Whoa, the tripod ring is expensive indeed. Can I mount the body instead?

thanks, jude

Honestly, my wish list now that I have this lens is a new EOS body. Making the rebel the backup. I will be shopping for a tripod ring.

But now I will be setting up and start shooting as a test. I am confident with the result and has now confidence carrying this lens on a rebel.

Thank you all.

jude

I just bought a 70-200mm 4L USM, the first heavy lens I bought. I

feel that this is quite heavy for my Rebel 2000. Ric has informed me

that 700 gm is no problem. I will be testing at least a roll and not

planning to buy a new body yet. Any other experience? What is the

proper way to hold?

Thanks, jude

The Rebel 2000 (aka Rebel 300) replaces the Rebel G. I am not sure about Rebel 3000N since I have not seen this here in the US. I have a Rebel 2000 and have been using it as main and backup depending on the event.

For an entry level, I choose the Rebel 2000 packaged with 28-80mm zoom. Then bought a 50mm 1.8 and 70-200 4L USM. No complaints and work fine. Some said that the 28-80 is almost garbage, but so far good to me. All my shots (not to be be enlarged like table shots) were praised by me clients ( I work both as an assistant and alone).

Well, the advice to get just the body is the best. He can then get the cheap 50mm 1.8 (ignore that it is plastic, an entry level means you be carefull with your equipment). The canon 70-200 4L USM has gotten great praise. I still have to test mine.

Enjoy.

jude

Okay, to all, after reading this post and checking the reviews and other threads in this forum, I bought a CANON 70-200 F/4 L USM. My very first "L". This is a good timing since I will be using this in a church priest ordination. No need to go near to get a good shot. I will be using this in combination with my 50mm 1.8 and the 28-80 that came with the body. I will be using the "L" for the church and portrait shots, 28-80 for table shots (they won't enlarge it anyway, hope so) and the 50mm the rest.

Thank you all.jude

Ric, still doubt this rebel 2000 can hold a 700gm. I hope this 2 rolls will get me confident before the main events. Thanks.

Hi Ric, check this post re: SIGMA lens

http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=003Sbb

Hi Gil, you mentioned "70-200mm L 4.0 (a real bargain right now with rebate at $589)", if it is proper in this forum, any chance you can email/post the web site where I can buy?

To all, with all your post and web site lens review, I give up Canon EF 75-300mm F4.0-5.6 (whew almost bought an experience again). And as adviced, if I cannot afford prof versions (L?), it is a must to get an IS lens if considering a telephoto.

jude

hmm, really nice professional forum!!!

Whoa, with me new in this board (as well as photography), Stefan's comment made a lot of sense to me "I think that should be the goal for every photographer.". I am in a hunt to add new lens to my rebel 2000 (sell the 28-80 packaged with it?). Initially, I would like to get the more expensive lens (yes, break the bank too) thinking it will much improve my shots, well I need to start all over again on what lens to buy.

jude

2 concerns

1.) With Rebel 2000 plastic casing, how much len weight can it handle? I see that the L lens can weigh from 500 gm to more than a kilo (>3 lbs).

2.) With my little SLR experience, should I just buy Canon Lens brand? Just to avoid mistake and to not keep on posting everytime I find something to buy until I am confident.

Thanks,

Jude

Thanks, great to have this forum. I will try to expand my choices since I still have a week before my next trip.

jude

AAA.) Canon EF 75-300mm F4.0-5.6 III -58mm- $154.89

BBB.) Canon EF 75-300mm F4.0-5.6 III (USA) -58mm- $174.89

CCC.) Canon EF 75-300mm F4.0-5.6 IS USM -58mm- $414.89

I will mostly be using in nature hike, wedding snaps and portaits. Do

I need to get the one with IS? Without the IS, is the lense still

able (with my experience ofcourse) when attached to a teleconverter?

My photo experience is 1.) since a kid amateur photo hobby using

point and shoot and 2.) I am about a year assisting a professional

wedding photographer using a SLR (was borrowing his Minolta). Mine is

a Rebel 2000 packaged with 28-80 zoom, 50mm 1.8, bought 2 months ago.

Most important, I will use what I earn (meager) to invest in lenses

that I can also use when I upgrade to another EOS body.

Side note: I had an experience last week when I was tasked to shoot

by myself a graduation party in a ballroom. I am using my rebel, body

battery pack, 420EX speedlite and bracket. A relative in 40s (semi

Pro) gave me an unsolicited advice by telling me how much better his

Nikon and accessories (I am amazed too) and mine is not capable

specially without a flash battery pack. I just politely shrugged and

told him that my equipment is enough.

Thank you and God bless America in its independence day.

Jude

Fair Lawn, NJ