mo_zhang Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 According to the Kodak website (http://www.kodak.com/global/en/consumer/products/techInfo/f15/f15.sh tml#push%20processing), I should be able to get "acceptable" negatives with a 3 stop push to 3200. Do you have any experiences pushing this film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimvanson Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 KODAK Black & White Film / BWC http://tinyurl.com/2bzkx is a chromogenic film that Kodak "<i>claims</i>" can be pushed to 3200.<P>I bet you a box of TriX it will look worse then crap, huge soft grain, blocked shadows, contrast right off the scale.<P>Only way though is try it and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taner Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 If I understand correctly, you are referring to the consumer B&W C41 film. I have used the pro C41 Kodak B&W film, the 400 CN I believe, with only 'acceptable' 5x7 results up to an effective speed of ISO 1000 by using the film's lattitude about 1.1/3 stops (no push processing - just underexposure, and compensation with the prints by a pro lab). On the other hand, with the real deal, that is real B&W Kodak TMY (ISO 400), I regularly expose @ ISO 800 and push process 1.1/2 stops. I have a 10x16 enlargement on my wall shot by that formula - yes there is grain, but a lot less than any other type of push processing I have experienced (Provia 400F to ISO 1600, Kodak Portra 800 to ISO 1600, etc). In my experience with C-41 push-processing (pro labs), the results were never better than 'acceptable'. So Kodak's claim about pushing that film to ISO 3200 is a strong claim indeed. I would imagine that if your exposure is right on with absolutely no room to play with any exposure lattitude (what lattitude @ ISO 3200?), small prints (5x7?) might be doable. Someone with direct experince with that scenario would have to confirm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan w. radtke Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I dont like kodak black and white films. I do natrual light barroom photography and street photography, and I chose illford. Depending on how far you want to push it you could either use delta pro 400 or 3200. I dont recomend pushing delta 400 past 2 stops. It gets very grainy. 3200 is a 1200 asa rated film that I have pushed all the way to 6400 with successful results. Hope this helps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimvanson Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I had to come back to this post; I thought about it several times in the past few hours.<P>Coming back I found that it appeared those posting had not noticed that Kodak has indeed published C41 push times for this film in the <a href="http://tinyurl.com/2bzkx"><b>Kodak B&W 400 Spec Sheet</b></a>. <P>Luddite that I am I figure that there is a huge difference between Kodak's claim that this film works when shot at 3200 and what an 8x12 says as it sits in my hand.<P>Guess the only way is for me to go buy a roll and ruin it, I mean shoot it at 3200. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I haven't tried it, but from my experience (HP5, not HP5+, TMY, XP1) I know, you should be a desperated darkroom wizard to try it out. Push only 2 stops to have pleasant results. 35mm at 3200 ends at 5x7" prints. "Acceptable" sounds fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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