Niels - NHSN Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 A large format photographer friend of 40 years ago explained he used a filter like this to visualise black and white scenes. First and only time I saw this item in use. Today I got one in a box of accessories and wanted to Google the principles behind it's use, but fail to get results as I don't know what it is called. It is black plastic where the filter can fold in and out. It is approximately 5 by 5cm when collapsed. The filter is very dark amber'ish. What is the correct name for this thing? Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 Kodak used to sell a Wratten # 90 gel (B&W viewing filter) that was made for the same purpose--a filter that would help a photographer to visualize how a photograph would look in black and white. I used to use one of these quite a bit when I shot a lot of 4x5 B&W. I bought the gel and mounted a piece of it in a 35 mm Gepe glass slide mount, which I also masked off to fit the 4x5 aspect ratio. I also drilled a hole in a corner of it to allow a neckstrap so I didn't have too go digging for it when I was out with my 4x5. With practice it also helped me to select which lens to use by holding it closer or further from my eye. The downside to this filter was that if you held it up to your eye for very long your eye adjusts to the filter and it no longer helps to visualize how the scene will look in B&W. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niels - NHSN Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 (edited) Thanks @AJG that Wratten reference helped a lot. Simply called a Kodak Viewing Filter it seems. It still appears to be a relevant product among some photographers (although not made by Kodak): https://shop.stearmanpress.com/products/zoneview-viewing-filter Edited January 29 by Niels - NHSN Niels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Glad that helped--I never knew about the Kodak filter you've shown, but I did use the Kodak gel for a long time and still have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Pretty often I get good results with Google image search, especially for No Words. It doesn't do so well on this one, though. It seems to match many necklaces. 1 -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glen_h Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Seems to be pretty narrow, from about 560nm to 580nm. If you ever happen to be in a place lit by low-pressure sodium lamps, you might have some idea. Note that it isn't that it is dim, though that might be part of it. Something can be brightly lit by LPS lamps, and still only have one color. My dad had a story about a parking lot converting over, and everyone had a hard time finding their car. They are either light yellow or dark yellow, but no other color. The lines are at 589.0 and 589.6nm. 1 -- glen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Vongries Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 I have one of these, though a newer variant. Was a given it by a friend, now long deceased, who was the graduate of a West Coast Photography school. It could be useful in film days, and took some of the guesswork out of the color / value decisions. My recollection is that he used it more for movie work than still photos. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 2/17/2024 at 8:27 AM, Sandy Vongries said: . . . My recollection is that he used it more for movie work than still photos. Most likely. Viewing Filters were used extensively by B&W Cinematographers, Directors and Lighting Technicians. More history here: LINK WW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Michael Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 1/30/2024 at 12:24 AM, AJG said: . . . The downside to this filter was that if you held it up to your eye for very long your eye adjusts to the filter and it no longer helps to visualize how the scene will look in B&W. Yes - agree. In the link above, one member comments on the 'flicking between scene and filter' method: I completed my Cine course in the 1970s, my teacher did not prescribe to this method, but rather encouraged a quick and decisive output from us, with no 'dilly-dallying' (his words). WW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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