need help ID'ing early 1900's negative size

[Dave Carhart]

I have 400 - 500 old B&W negatives of family photos.  The oldest is my grandparents "courting" around 1912

those negatives are 85mm x 115mm.  There is no markings on the edge of the film to identify them. anyone here know what film type they would be.  Google wasn't able to answer it.  It came pretty close with type 108, but not quite. 

the newer ones of me and my sisters growing up are either 116 or 616 film as the are slightly smaller in width.

I've attached that picture.

[Niels - NHSN]

Sound like 9x12 cm 

See:

http://www.earlyphotography.co.uk/site/sfs.html

 

[Dave Carhart]

that does look to be the one. looks like Kodak made a roll holder for this size in the early 1900's that could be put in a Kodak Brownie and give you 24 exposures.

[john_shriver]

Is there some residue from glued paper on one of the short ends of the negative? That would indicate that they are from a film pack.

[Dave Carhart]

15 hours ago, john_shriver said:

Is there some residue from glued paper on one of the short ends of the negative? That would indicate that they are from a film pack.

no, none at all,

and the short edges are often uneven, while the long edges are perfectly straight, leading me to believe they are roll film and cut at the processing lab.

[kmac]

Possibly Kodak 118 roll film, the format ratio of the picture equates close to 3 1/4" x 4 1/4" for Kodak No3 folders.