Unknown roll of 127 film

[shannon_reiswig1]

<p>I recently received a Kodak Holiday Flash camera as a gift and when I opened it up there was still a roll of film in it, I was excited. My curiosity sparked an instant conscious decision was made that I would develop it myself. I watched a friend do it in his kitchen sink and thought, dang it's gotten a lot easier (that was five years ago). I haven't developed film since high school which was back in 1995. Doing some google searches and talking to a couple of friends I was confident that I could do this.. then it got complicated.<br>

So many conflicting answers of what works and what doesn't, which process is better and which process is consistent. Turns out, a lot of people use the directions on the bottle as a guide then build their own process that works for them, fair enough. "Go check out Massive Dev, all your answers are on that site" Uff da! More internet searches, more back and forth answers. After a lot of reading, I ended up getting HC-110, Ilford Ilfostop, Ilford Rapid Fixer and a JOBO 1520. So I'm ready to rock, right? Hell no! Turns out, I have no idea what this little gem of a roll is! I know I know, seems a bit dumb.. yep, I'm a "nube" or is it "noob" anyway. Tons more of internet searches and I stumbled upon this: http://westfordcomp.com/foundfilm/yeates/yeates.htm That's it, that's my roll of film. But, even with this new found knowledge I'm not confident at all about trying to develop this and I really don't want to mess this up! I was hoping that one of you might be able to recognize this roll type and lead me into the right direction?<br>

*I should note that I did cut off a strip in a darkbag and tried my hand at developing this and my result was a very dark piece of film. I'm not sure if it was already exposed, or if I messed up the development process. <br>

<img src="https://www.instagram.com/p/BClMnvgCXQZ/" alt="" /></p>

 

[john_shriver]

<p>Look at <a href="/photodb/user?user_id=614297">Gene M</a>'s postings <a href="/shared/forum-contributions?user_id=614297">here</a>, he discusses his techniques a lot in them. He uses HC-110.</p>

[glen_h]

<p>I would use the times for Verichrome Pan. </p>

<p>There were a few no-name black and white films from about 50 years ago that look like that, made in England or Belgium. HC-110 is the favorite for older films. </p>

<p>There might also have been some no-name color films from that time, but I never used those. </p>

<p>One end of the roll should be marked EXPOSED. It it was in the middle of the roll, there is a good chance that the back was opened, exposing some frames, but others usually survive. </p>

[glen_h]

<p>The sort-of ordinary ASA 100 films in the massive development chart, for HC-110 dilution B, seem to be between about 5 and 8 minutes (68F/20C). VP seems to be at the low end. <br>

(The chart says 4.25, but Kodak says 5: http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f7/f7.pdf )</p>

<p>Between 6 and 7 minutes should be about right. With a simple camera, the exposures aren't likely all that close, anyway. You don't know if they were on a sunny or cloudy day, which can make a bigger difference than 6 or 7 minutes. </p>

<p>Otherwise, I might use Diafine on it, which is usually my choice for newer film, though also for older film so far. (I now have HC-110, but haven't used it yet.)</p>

 

[shannon_reiswig1]

<p>Thank you for replying to me, I'm still working on finding the right process here. It's also been suggested to go much longer, around a hour or so. Very interesting processes. </p>

[glen_h]

<p>Stand development (really long times, and not so much agitation) is interesting, but I have never tried it.</p>

<p>I do often use Diafine, which has some similarities to stand development, but doesn't require a long time. </p>

<p>In addition to HC-110, the other thing sometimes used with older films is benzotriazole, also known as Kodak Anti-fog No. 1. </p>

[shannon_reiswig1]

<p>Thanks for all the knowledge Glen, how long have you been doing this?</p>

[shannon_reiswig1]

<p>Update<br>

I finally got a chance to develop the mystery 127 roll. Here's what they look like:<a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/reiswigphotography/albums/72157666608903941" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" data-proxy-href="proxy.php?link=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Freiswigphotography%2Falbums%2F72157666608903941&hash=810a2de0fa901edaf1cccd377b2f7fb9">https://www.flickr.com/photos/reiswigphotography/albums/72157666608903941</a></p>

[James G. Dainis]

You did a good job of developing. The subject looks like a visit by relatives from out of state. Then the camera was put away until the rest of the film could be used on another event in the future.

[shannon_reiswig1]

<p>Thank you James, and I think you're spot on.</p>

[glen_h]

<p>I don't know cars enough to know, but someone should be able to guess the year.</p>

<p>The last roll of found film I developed has a picture of the Mackinac bridge under construction, so about 1956.</p>

<p>I started darkroom work when I was nine years old, almost 50 years ago.<br>

(Not continuously through the years, though.)</p>