Photo's from my New F-1 or is it F-1N?

[mark_stephan2]

<p>These photo's were taken at soccer camp this past summer with my F-1N, nFD 35-70 f2.8-3.5 and 80-200 f4 (non L). I used Fuji Superia 400 film for all photo's.</p><div></div>

[mark_stephan2]

<p>Tables setup for refreshments.</p><div></div>

[mark_stephan2]

<p>The Red Boy!</p><div></div>

[mark_stephan2]

<p>My son Matthew (the boy on the left holding a water bottle).</p><div></div>

[mark_stephan2]

<p>Soccer drills.</p>

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[mark_stephan2]

<p>Fun time at the end of practice.</p><div></div>

[darin_cozine]

<p>hmm the first two shots look perfect.. the rest look under-exposed. <br>

What changed?</p>

 

[mark_stephan2]

<p>Not sure what happened to the under exposed images, probably operator error. I used two rolls of film that day and one came out properly and the other didn't. The Fuji film expired in 2007 so that may have played a part too.</p>

[thomas_goehler]

<p>There <em>is</em> a difference between New F-1 and F-1New! New F-1 is a slightly revised version of the original old F-1, while F-1N is the latest model, built after 1981.</p>

<p>P.S. also there is a difference between "photos" (plural usage, no apostrophe needed) and "photo's" (genitive case, as in "The photo's topic is the outstanding soccer performance of under-12 boys.") SCNR!</p>

[Alex_Es]

<p>These are very good photos. Nicely scanned. Happy New Year!</p>

[gordon_yee]

<p>"<em>There </em>is<em> a difference between New F-1 and F-1New! New F-1 is a slightly revised version of the original old F-1, while F-1N is the latest model, built after 1981.</em>"</p>

<p>Not correct. The official designation of the original mechanical F-1, including the updated version introduced in 1976 (often referred to as the "F-1n"), was always the "Canon F-1." The totally redesigned second generation model was officially introduced by Canon in 1981 as the "New Canon F-1" or the "New F-1." As far as I know, Canon never used the term "F-1 New." The references to the "F-1n" and the "F-1N" are unofficial nicknames coined by owners and collectors to distinguish between the various models. It's my contention that thinking of the Canon F-1 as three distinct models is the source of continuing confusion. Personally, I would banish the nickname "F-1n" to oblivion. I prefer to think of the original F-1s as "early/late", "1971/1976", or "version 1/version2".</p>

<p><a href="/photo/17641815&size=lg"><img src="http://d6d2h4gfvy8t8.cloudfront.net/17641815-md.jpg" alt="Canon New F-1" width="594" height="680" border="0" /></a></p>

[mark_stephan2]

<p>Thanks for everyone's comments. From now on I'll address my F-1 (third model) as F-1N.</p>

[martin_jones1]

<p>The nFD 35-70 f2.8-3.5 has been my favourite everyday lens since 1982. The zoom ring is now feeling a bit dry and I feel a bit guilty listening to it as it scrapes around. Apparently there is a fix using the teflon guides from EOS zooms in place of the nylon guides in my lens which seem to have worn out.<br>

<br />My favourite longer zoom, of a few years back, was the FD 85-300 f4.5. It's a bear of a lens and really needs a monopod when shooting but has given some great results. Has since been replaced with a nFD 70-210 f4 but I don't like the single touch slide zooms. Will have to hunt down one of the Canon 80-200 two ring zooms; which one will depend on funds available when I spot one.</p>

[thomas_goehler]

<p>Gordon, basically I did not say anything else. Normally the New F-1 is referred to as "F-1N" while the modiefied old F-1 is known as "F-1n". Of course this is not the official reading, but as far as I know people around the world know what is meant by either of the two.</p>

[james_turner6]

<p>Oops. Behind the curve. Ignore.</p>

[gordon_yee]

<p>I've always associated the word "new" with the second generation F-1 introduced in 1981. I believe that using this word and the lower case "n" (as in "F-1n") when referring to the 1976 update of the "old" mechanical F-1 is the source of much confusion to those not intimately familiar with the various F-1s. I just thought that your statement that the "New F-1 is a slightly revised version of the original old F-1" adds to the confusion.</p>

[w_t1]

<p>Hey Goehler the nanny lecturing about text written by others is totally uncalled for. What are we, back in 7th grade?</p>

[gordon_yee]

<p><em>"...but as far as I know people around the world know what is meant by either of the two."</em></p>

<p><a href="http://www.apug.org/forums/forum52/125954-canon-f1n-vs-nikon-f2-really-one-better-than-other.html">http://www.apug.org/forums/forum52/125954-canon-f1n-vs-nikon-f2-really-one-better-than-other.html</a></p>

<p>Thomas, this is why, "<em>I would banish the nickname 'F-1n' to oblivion.</em>" My apologies for belaboring the point, but I just had to get it off my chest before I go outside to shovel even more snow...</p>

[john_austin4]

<p>Gordon, you need to go out and sit in the snow for a while until your urge to be a pedantic nit picker goes away.<br />The APUG thread you mention is mine. As you well know, the Canon F-1n (yes, "n") that I own is the new F-1 and I'll be god-damned if I am going to call it a F-1N just to please your ilk. Leave Thomas alone and let him call the camera whatever he wants.<br />If the nitwits at Canon don't know how to clearly distinguish between camera models then they pay the price for our confusion. If they do know how to distinguish the models and simply chose not to (I think that is the case) then they really don't care about the confusion you are so certain will exist. As soon as I describe the camera as having a matte black finish, anyone who knows anything about the camera will know beyond the shadow of a doubt that the camera I refer to is the third iteration of the F-1 from 1981 regardless of whether I call it an F-1n or an F-1N. Neither of which is an official term, by the way.</p>

[rick_janes]

If Gordon sits outside he will have plenty of good company there. His contributions on technical matters and FD System

history are the gold standard of excellence in this forum. He gets really high marks for being a good guy, too.