anil_sud Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 <p>I'm using Lightroom 3 as my main processing software with Silver EFex Pro 2 for black and white conversion. I can't seem to obtain rich images in my black and white conversion that I would have expected from SEFx2.<br> The raw files from LR3 are exported to Silver Efex with no pre-processing performed on them. Is it better to do any lightroom processing on the colour raw image first (contrast/clarity/saturation) or even convert to B+W prior to export to Silver Efex in order to obtain a better end-result?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted May 29, 2011 Share Posted May 29, 2011 <p>Can you post some before/after images, that would help a lot in responding. I've never had a problem with Silver Efex getting the results I want.</p> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_delson Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 <blockquote> <p>I can't seem to obtain rich images in my black and white conversion</p> </blockquote> <p>Starting with a well exposed image is still important.<br> Subject matter is important.<br> Contrast and dynamic range is important.</p> <p>No plug-in is a miracle worker.</p> <p>To answer your question; no, the NIK plug-in is a all in one workflow solution; there is no need to pre-process.</p> <p>Still, using U-Point technology, you still (should) dodge & burn..just like the 'ol days. :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gooseberry Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 <blockquote> <p>Is it better to do any lightroom processing on the colour raw image first (contrast/clarity/saturation) or even convert to B+W prior to export to Silver Efex in order to obtain a better end-result?</p> </blockquote> <p>Give it a go! -- some first-hand testing is always good. Can't see how making some exposure-related adjustments in raw development could hurt (even if one can do them just as well later in the workflow.)<br> <br />Don't have SEP, so can't answer your question specifically, but have read somewhere that getting white balance right before conversion usually helps.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesBecker-Toronto Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 <p>re the first part of your question, it's always best to work from the best colour image possible before conversion.<br> re the second part of your question, the answer is no as Silver Efex Pro does not work on black and white images.<br> cb<br> :-0)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 <p>In terms of an absolutely brilliant video on B&W conversions first in Photoshop, then in Lightroom, check out George Jardine’s new sampler at:<br /><br /><a href="http://mulita.com/blog/?p=1244" target="_blank">http://mulita.com/blog/?p=1244</a></p> Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted May 30, 2011 Share Posted May 30, 2011 <p>Andrew, GJ's video is useful, especially on the theory side. However, I'm surprised that he doesn't show using the TAT, which is much more intuitive for most users. It's a lot easier than fiddling with individual colors for most users.</p> <p>I do use Silver Efex sometimes, the U-point technology is terrific. Adobe should license it, it would make LR and PS a whole lot easier to use. Although added grain is much better in LR than it used to be, it's still not as flexible as Silver Efex. </p> Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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