michael_madio Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 <p>I recently acquired an Epson V750. The scans I get from MF and LF negatives are great so I decided to try it with 35mm film. The scans look good on their own but when I compare to my lowly Minolta Scan Dual IV, it's clear that the Minolta scanner, despite it's having half the resolution, resolves much more detail. I did A:B testing using the same software (VueScan), same settings, and the same negatives, that clearly shows the difference. I know the Epson scanner is working fine as the MF and LF scans demonstrate but I'm wondering if this relatively poor performance when scanning 35mm negatives is common with this scanner?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julien_boudreau Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 <p>Well I just got the V500 and I can't say I'm too happy. The scans are OK, but coming from a darkroom I'm ready to pull my hair out. The problem, as usual, is negative sag. Add to that the fact that the holders barely leave any rebate, sometimes it crops into the image.</p> <p>J</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 <p>"despite it's having half the resolution, resolves much more detail."</p> <p>Actually if you are going by the manufacturers stated resolution you are setting yourself for a long frustrating experience. Manufacturers of Flat Bed scanners often inflate the resolution to the point where the numbers are absolutely meaningless. For example Epson claims that the V750 has a wopping resolution of 6400, but actually after careful testing by professionals, the "true" resolutionwas found to be less than 2400. That does not mean this scanner cannot scan at 6400. What it means is that to get those high numbers, the size of the scan would be tremendous(mostly filled with worthless information) and the time to scan a simple 35mm frame would be totally unacceptable. Downsizing the scan for useful purposes such as printing an 8X10, would only bring it back to the "true" resolution, which is less than the stated 2400. A resolution of 2400 is about average for so-so(non-professional) dedicated film scanners.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert lee Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 <blockquote> <p>... working fine as the MF and LF scans demonstrate but I'm wondering if this relatively poor performance when scanning 35mm negatives is common</p> </blockquote> <p>The problem isn't with 135 format film. The problem is that the flatbed manufacturers are "creative" in stated resolution numbers. I bet that you can clearly discern film grain from the Minolta scan, but won't be able to from the flatbed regardless of film format.</p> <p>My personal experience is that consumer flatbeds are good for 4X, maybe 5X enlargements. This easily gives excellent 8x10 prints from 6x7 film. The same goes for 6x9 prints from 135.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 <p>As indicated, whilst sagging negatives will prevent you from achieving the full potential of the scanner, the basic performance of this and other flatbeds means that even if you correct the film flatness issue, getting scans good enough to make big prints from a 35mm original is unlikely. With my V700 and MF film, I'm happy with enlargement to 12" square ( equivalent to about 7" x 5" for 35mm) , for any screen-based application, Blurb book pages etc. but beyond that I want a better scan which also will dig out more shadow detail. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lachaine Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 <p>I own and use a flatbed scanner for scanning my negatives... but it's with the understanding that it's only for computer display (web-sized really). It's not going to match the Minolta film scanner I once had, even though the flatbed is a newer model. I have no intention or even just hopes of using these flatbed scans to subsequently make darkroom-sized prints... but then, I don't have to, since I do have the negative for those photographs I decide are suitable for real printing.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMoxham Posted January 4, 2011 Share Posted January 4, 2011 <p>Well I'm happy with my V500, the scans from it and the prints made from the scans..... It's not a Coolscan but then it did not cost anywhere near the same as a coolscan....</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_madio Posted January 4, 2011 Author Share Posted January 4, 2011 <p>Stuart,</p> <p>That looks better than what I'm getting. Are you using any sharpening and/or adjusting the film holder height?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMoxham Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 <p>Have to sharpen with the v500 but I don't use any special film holders. I just sharpen the image until it is sharp enough.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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