steve_hovland Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 <p>Are these camera's really working for video at weddings?<br> I looked up some fusion photography on youtube last night and saw some wedding videos where the camera person was having trouble keeping things in focus and was wobbling on pans etc.<br> I think various pocket cameras that focus continuously or dedicated camcorders are really better at this run and gun work. What say you?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 <p>I think it really depends on the camera operator.</p> <p>Gear setup matters too; it's fairly involved to get a dSLR to make usable cinematic quality videos - a steady mount if stationary, or <a href="http://www.google.ca/images?hl=en&expIds=17259,26885,26993,27006&xhr=t&q=steadicam&cp=4&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1920&bih=982">steadicam</a>, rigged with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Follow_focus">follow focus</a>, plus external high quality stereo audio. Not trivial, but can be spectacular if done properly.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon DAmato Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 <p>When a company like Canon, Sony, or Panasonic — companies who know how to make video cameras with the features necessary for production — puts one of these large sensors into a camera with the correct ergonomics, balanced audio (xlr) inputs, timecode with time of day and record run options, 'raw'-like workflow, lenses with a long throw for focus pulling, balanced placement of mounting screw, etc, etc, etc, those cameras will be the real game changers.<br> Without these very basic features, using DSLRs for video requires making stuff stand on its head while shooting and adds several layers of problems in post.</p> <p>It can be done, but you're hammering screws.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daverhaas Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 <p>I've said it before and I'll say it again - if I want to shoot video - I'll get a Video Cameracorder. If I want to shoot stills - I'll use a DSLR.</p> <p>The adding of video to DSLR's is a gimmick at best. Designed for those who want a quick 30 second clip for youtube or facebook. </p> <p>There is no way I'd try to shoot an entire wedding video hand-held with a Nikon D300s or similar camera - at a minimum you'd need lights, mics, tripod, etc... Yet this is exactly what people are trying to do with the DSLR's that do video.</p> <p>Dave</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 <p>Steve, have a look here: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=5D+wedding&aq=f">[Link]</a><br> It can be done; just isn't easy.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_hovland Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 <p>The one from JoeSimonProductions is much better than average. I was interested to note that he had mikes on both groom and officiant - good redundancy. Capturing ceremony audio I think is one of the trickier parts.<br> Many wedding videos I've seen are a boring succession of pan and tilt shots that go on too long.<br> The best I've seen was from some guy in San Diego whose name I can't recall, but he obviously had some background in cinematography.<br> I recommend books like Setting Up Your Shots and Master Shots to learn different ways to compose moving scenes. Even the fight shots can inspire good moves for wedding videos.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve m smith Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 <blockquote> <p>cinematic quality videos</p> </blockquote> <p>I don't think cinematic quality video exists.... unless cinematic quality has recently been downgraded significantly.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 <p>Poor choice of words, Steve. It was meant to communicate "videos with a look and feel which resemble motion pictures in appearance".</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_hovland Posted October 7, 2010 Author Share Posted October 7, 2010 <p>More and more films are being shot electronically, but the cameras are in the $50-100k range- Reds, CineAlta etc. <br> Many videographers could learn more from studing how shots are done in movies- subject movement, camera movement, lighting.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_hovland Posted October 9, 2010 Author Share Posted October 9, 2010 <p>Although I prefer a real camcorder when doing video, there are times when some kind of video is better than none.<br> One of the events I photographed this summer was a gathering for a man who was dying of cancer.<br> At one point he started showing us and telling us how his hobby of beekeeping had turned into a passion and a business for him.<br> I shot a lot of pictures with my DSLR, but I still regret not having my pocket camera with video along that day.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gary_hanna Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 <p>"http://www.psynema.com/?p=596"</p> <p>How'd I do?</p> <p>Shot on a DSLR</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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