mark_drutz Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>In my old age the weight of a camera and lens has become important to me. I love my D90 but together with my Tamron 18-270 VC or Sigma 50-150 f/2.8 or Nikon 70-300 VR it becomes uncomfortably heavy after a couple of hours, especially on the neck. I saw an ad for an OP/TECH Classic Strap that claimed to make the camera feel 50% lighter. B&H carried them so I figured it wasn't a scam and I ordered one for my D90 and one for my D60. At $12.89 each, how much could I lose? (I know$25.78)</p> <p>I can't say that they made the camera feel 50% lighter, but they did make the camera feel noticeably lighter. It was $25.78 well spent. I guess this proves that sometimes the claims in the ads are true.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>A good strap definitely helps. But to really feel some relieve, get a rig that lets you bear that weight on your hips. Can make a huge difference.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pge Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>Or try a couple of primes. After dragging around a big zoom for a few days it can be a great relief to put on a little 28mm or 50mm lens.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_tran14 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <blockquote> <p>they did make the camera <strong>feel </strong>noticeably lighter</p> </blockquote> <p>So it's only about feel, the weight is still there. Alternate solution: with $25 you can join a Gym and soon you will feel everything lighter</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_h.1 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <blockquote> <p>get a rig that lets you bear that weight on your hips. Can make a huge difference.</p> </blockquote> <p>Yeah, I hate straps for various reasons. A waist belt system has proven very reliable, safe and convenient and comfortable.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_livacich Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>Ditto that. For 32 years my favorite bag has been a US military gas mask bag that can be slung over the shoulder quickly and has a clip on the strap that allows fast conversion to a waist strap. Sorta Domke-esque in appearance.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_dimarzio Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>Quite awhile ago I bought some used Op-Techs, great straps! I beleive in seat belts, a good strap will you you from bouncing your bean or your camara on the tarmac. John could you post a link of a waist level system? Would this keep you from dropping a machine or actually be attached to your waist?</p><p>thanks-md</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossb Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>Well the D90 in itself is reasonable in weight. I also have the op tech straps and I believe they do help out somewhat over the original strap. You do not say if you just carry a camera with one zoom attached or do you have a bag filled with stuff. I know a guy that carries his camera in a waist mounted camera bag and he says it is pretty comfortable. No neck strap really needed and no neck discomfort at all. Possibly something with a wide waste belt for great support.<br> <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/675839-REG/Clik_Elite_CE504GR_Trekker_Waist_Pack_Clik.html">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/675839-REG/Clik_Elite_CE504GR_Trekker_Waist_Pack_Clik.html</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>If you restrict you camera to a diet of low-weight lenses, it will become much easier to carry around. Various major marques all have decent, cheap, largely plastic beginner lenses that would also serve someone who is finding the camera plus premium lenses too heavy, massive, and awkward.</p> <p>Just a simple 50mm f/1.8 lens will make a remarkably light and compact unit with most of the <em><strong>not</strong></em>-the-huge-pro cameras-for-people-with-large-hands in the lineups.</p> <p>A corollary of Kliban's Law (never eat anything larger than your head), would be (known as von Weinberg's extension) "to never shoot handheld with a camera larger than your head."</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_wagner1 Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>The neoprene straps are essential gear IMO, they make a big difference and I wouldn't be without them</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stp Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>I gave up a 67 system in favor of 645 largely because of weight considerations. I'm still conscious of weight (my hip joints have been replaced 9 times over the last 30+ years), and I usually take just a subset of lenses based on what terrain I'm exploring. Sometimes it's fun to take just a single lens and concentrate on a particular approach (e.g., an f/2 lens with nearly everything shot at maximum aperture). Finally, I've also purchased a wheeled cart (sort of like a golf cart.... the kind that carries only the bag) for those times when the trail isn't extremely rough and I want to bring the kitchen sink (e.g., 500mm, 300mm, lots of "little" lenses, and maybe a film as well as digital system). All of this works for me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_drutz Posted September 1, 2010 Author Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>John Tran, come back when your 67 and have a touch of arthritis in the neck and shoulders and then we'll talk.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_drutz Posted September 1, 2010 Author Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>John and Ross, thanks. I'll look into a hip bag. I just went to B&H's site and found some nice ones. I'll try to get to see them in person.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>Mark: make a point of looking at the gear from Think Tank Photo. There are bags like the "speed" series (I use the Speed Racer) that can be used as hip packs or as shoulder packs. They make many variations on that theme, as well as modular goodies.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bj_larsson Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 <p>I second the "move to primes" sentiment. I know my D300 feels like a completely different camera with the 35 f1.8 vs the 18-200 for instance :)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_mcmillin Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 <p>I also like my OpTech strap. It's on a Pentax 645. I carried that with a 45-85 zoom on a six mile hike near Aspen last month, and barely noticed the weight. The weight of other lenses and cameras in my backpack was another matter, I noticed that a lot. But the stretchy neoprene helped even out the weight of a five-pound camera, providing some "give" that reduced the weight multiplications that come with each stride. I've never tried an alternative strap such as a hip strap, but if I keep hauling this big mother, perhaps I should.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 <p>I have a couple of OpTech's for my Hasselblads, and really don't like them because they stretch enough that they bounce around too much off my shoulder, and tend to bounce off my shoulder. It's probably just me.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerrySiegel Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 <p>I must be one of those people Mark that just can't get used to anything dangling from my tender neck. Neopreone included and I have tried the Optech products. I use their pouches still, though Zing with velcro closures serve me better for lenses. The answer to my own current carry formula. Added this year, s Panasonic Lumix G- 1 with a Lumix 20mm 1.7/ 40mm equiv. Packs in a wrap around Zing pouch too for bang ans scratch protection...But, I can get buy with a<em> nylon web wrist lanyard</em> on it on one lug (don't tell, it has a Canon white logo) and wrap it around my wrist when I carry it; also used to wrap wrist and steady some 20mm /40mm 4/3 sensor shots. The 20mm lens has no Mega Optical Image Stabilization (great highfalutin ad term that). I don't need it and most of us seniors lived without it and survived...<br /> Very easy on the shoulders, no kidding. My other outfit,ah, is more of a Browning Automatic Rifle assault camera -weapon. (A full size E-3 sometimes wearing a 50-200 mm zoom. I work out but the tendons are 73 yo tendons. That is for the tripod for now, but that is what I wanted it for. Tho I will shlep it to the beach if induced. No strap either, just a monopod and me and a backpack or shoulder bag. I have no tush ledge thus no hip bags, that is my genetic heritage:-)) I take that back, some hip bags with a shoulder strap to keep it up...like the banana republic constabulary...one from Mountaingear company works for me. <br /> Everybody I am thinking likely needs to consider a light weight second camera something these days. And by george, the Panasonic gives pretty good files for a little lightweight.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rashedahmed Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 <p>Mark, find out a waist pack camera holder and keep your heavy lenses on backpack. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_poel Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 <p>I carry a D90 and 24-70 f/2.8 lens for hours with Black Rapid's R-Strap - it puts the wieght on my shoulder instead of my neck (I have a tender neck too LOL). I actually get a break by switching out to my 70-300 VR in terms of weight. :)<br> You might want to try on in a store - bring your camera.<br> <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/645426-REG/Black_Rapid_RS_4.html">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/645426-REG/Black_Rapid_RS_4.html</a></p> <p>Has anyyone tried the Cotton Carrier? Looks like it would be decent if out for a day.<br> <a href="http://www.cottoncarrier.com/">http://www.cottoncarrier.com/</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wogears Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 <p>Second the opinion on the Panasonic G1--I put a 50mm f1.8 OM Zuiko on it with an adapter, and I've got a great combo for people shots. I have a Neoprene strap on the D200, and it does help things, but at nearly (shudder) sixty, it still gets heavy. Yes, I work out, have hard abs and biceps, but it doesn't help this particular affliction.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_harvey3 Posted September 2, 2010 Share Posted September 2, 2010 <p>I first discovered the OpTech Pro loop strap years ago for my Pentax 67II. Now I use them also on the Rebel XSI, the 5DII with 24-105, Rolleiflex 3.5F and Fuji GW670III. Good strap; it doesn't dig into the back of your neck.</p> <p>As soon as I hooked up the 5DII with the Canon standard strap, I knew that thing had to go.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_drutz Posted September 2, 2010 Author Share Posted September 2, 2010 <p>I find myself using my D60 and Fuji HS10 bridge camera more and more. The D60 is only 16 oz. Together with my Tamron 18-200 it's 11 oz lighter than the D90 and Tamron 18-270 VC. The D3100 weighs the same 16oz as the D60. If it has the IQ of the D90, I'll get one. With the OP/TECH strap, the D60 with the Tamron 18-200 or 18-270 VC, the weight is acceptable.</p><p>I'm a minimalist when it comes to gear. Sometimes I'll just take the D90 or D60 with a superzoom. Next step up I add my Sigma 10-20 and Nikon 10.5mm FF FE. For the zoo or aquarium, I take the D90 with my Tamron 17-50 f/2.8, Sigma 50-150 F/2.8, and Tamron 18-270 VC. For shooting on the street, in the park, or on the boardwork I'll usually bring just the HS10. It's not only light weight but it's silent which is good for candids.</p><p>So the most I carry is a body and 3 lenses. That's why I prefer zooms, especially good consumer zooms. The Sigma 10-20, Nikon fisheye, and a superzoom cover me from the FF fisheye to 270mm in a relatively light weight kit, and the OP/Tech makes it feel acceptable in terms of weight.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah_fox Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 <p>Mark, your solutions are pretty similar to my own. I think women encounter this sort of problem sooner than men, typically with purses. Whenever my purse gets too heavy, I go through it to clean it out. You'd be surprised how much weight can be contributed by this little thing and that little thing and the other little thing and and and. For instance, do you carry a bottle of lens cleaning fluid? If so, maybe you should leave that bottle behind in your car. Your moist breath and a microfiber cloth are pretty light.</p> <p>I carry the heavy stuff when I need it, but usually no more than 2 lenses at any one time. Otherwise I carry a crop body and plastic kit lens -- or even better, just my little G11.</p> <p>I'm going to try one of those neoprene straps. Thanks! :-)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_drutz Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 <p>Sarah, my wife carries a large purse. I tell her that junk expands to fill all space, and if she had a smaller purse she'd carry less junk.<br> Besides the camera and no more than 3 lenses, I carry a Lens Pen, microfiber cloth, and sometimes an extra battery and/or Sunpak RD-2000 flash (about the size of an SB-400).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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