D-76

[jerry_plemons1]

On a recent visit to my local camera store, one of the best in the area, I asked if they carried Rodinal. The answer

was no. I said that's ok, I'm mostly a D-76 guy anyway. The camera store guy said, "Well, D-76 is going away at

the end of the year. Kodak is phasing out that product". So I said, ok, ID-11 is almost the same. Then he said, "by

the way, Tri-X is also going away at the end of the year".

 

Is this guy feeding me a line or is there some basis for these comments?

 

Thanks,

 

Jerry

[eric friedemann]

<p>1. Tri-X Pro in 120 and 220 are being discontinued:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/filmAnnouncements.jhtml">http://www.kodak.com/global/en/professional/products/films/filmAnnouncements.jhtml</a></p>

<p>2. Kodak is discontinuing a number of B&W chemicals:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.photoformulary.com/uploads/Kodak%20dis-continued.pdf">http://www.photoformulary.com/uploads/Kodak%20dis-continued.pdf</a></p>

<p>3. Photographers Formulary sells a D-76 substitute:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.photoformulary.com/DesktopModules/StoreProductDetails.aspx?productID=66&tabid=9&tabindex=2&categoryid=31&selection=0&langId=0">http://www.photoformulary.com/DesktopModules/StoreProductDetails.aspx?productID=66&tabid=9&tabindex=2&categoryid=31&selection=0&langId=0</a></p>

<p>4. Here's Rodinal:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.freestylephoto.biz/9720-Agfa-Rodinal-17-oz">http://www.freestylephoto.biz/9720-Agfa-Rodinal-17-oz</a>.</p>

[eric friedemann]

<p>Regarding Tri-X, see also:</p>

<p><a href="http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/02/kodak-trix-professional-txp-discontinued-in-120-and-220.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2FZSjz+%28The+Online+Photographer%29">http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2010/02/kodak-trix-professional-txp-discontinued-in-120-and-220.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2FZSjz+%28The+Online+Photographer%29</a></p>

[evan_goulet]

<p>http://motion.kodak.com/motion/uploadedFiles/PCN110209_Q.pdf<br>

Perhaps he was thinking of this announcement that selected sizes of packaged D-76 were being discontinued.</p>

[jerry_plemons1]

<p>Thanks Eric and Evan. I had not been able to locate a source of Rodinal locally, so this is a plus for me. And even though Kodak is discontinuing some products, it looks like there are sauitable substitutes. Maybe I should put a few 100' rolls of Tri-X in the freezer, just in case.<br>

Jerry</p>

[eric friedemann]

<p>FWIW:</p>

<p>1. I always liked HP-5 better than Tri-X.</p>

<p>2. To the extent I shoot B&W film any more, its 120 XP-2. As I've gone to printing digitally, having a B&W film I can scan using Digital Ice is worth the film's minor downsides.</p>

[keith_tapscott]

<blockquote>

<p>Subject: D-76<br>

On a recent visit to my local camera store, one of the best in the area, I asked if they carried Rodinal. The answer was no. I said that's ok, I'm mostly a D-76 guy anyway. The camera store guy said, "Well, <strong>D-76 is going away at the end of the year. Kodak is phasing out that product</strong> ". So I said, ok, ID-11 is almost the same. Then he said, <strong>"by the way, Tri-X is also going away at the end of the year".</strong> Is this guy feeding me a line or is there some basis for these comments? Thanks, Jerry <br /> <br /> -- <a href="../photodb/user?user_id=838634">Jerry Plemons</a></p>

<p>We know that Tri-X 320 (320TXP) in 120 and 220 rolls is being phased out, as is D-76R replenisher, but if Kodak discontinue Tri-X 400 film (400TX) and D-76 considering their popularity, then that would come as a major shock to regular users. <em><strong>Let`s hope not.</strong> </em><br>

I didn`t see any mention of this on Kodak`s website, so I wouldn`t worry too much just yet.</p>

<p> </p>

</blockquote>

[kelly_flanigan1]

<p>Well the PDF says D76 to make 10 gallons is being dropped; and its substute is D76 in 1 gallon size<br>

<br /> It is sort of like Tide dropping octomoms 30Lb box of Tide and one can only buy 3 lbs ones.<br>

<br /> Give Evan and A for reading and the salesman an F!</p>

[jthompson]

<p>Man, you had me scared for a second that they were taking my dev. off the market!</p>

 

[lovcom_photo]

<p>Eric, I don't thing ICE works with B&W film...do you do post processing to get rid of the grain? the whole point of B&W IMHO is the grain...curious...</p>

<p>As to D-76 "going away", Clayton F76 does just as well a job, if not better on Tri-X and Plus-X, and it costs a lot less...at FreeStylePhoto.biz....while there check out their rebranded developer called Arista Premium....it's a generic D76 and is even cheaper then Clayton....bye, bye Kodak D76...I won't miss you...</p>

[bob_himmelright]

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<p>Eric, I don't thing ICE works with B&W film...do you do post processing to get rid of the grain? the whole point of B&W IMHO is the grain...curious...</p>

</blockquote>

<p>ICE is for dust, and works with color negative or reversal films. Ilford XP-2 is more a color negative film without color than a black and white film as it goes through the C-41 process.</p>

[jthompson]

<p>You can use ICE on B & W film if you scan as color neg.</p>

[bob_himmelright]

<blockquote>

<p>You can use ICE on B & W film if you scan as color neg.</p>

</blockquote>

<p>try it sometime and see what happens when you try to have software map opaque to IR light dust on a background of opaque to IR light silver crystals.</p>

[alec_myers]

<p>Bob's right. ICE only works because colour film dyes are transparent to IR. But the silver grains in b/w film aren't and are indistinguishable from dust particles.</p>

[eric friedemann]

<p>What Bob and Alec said.</p>

[jthompson]

<p>Bob & Alec are right. I was mistaken. My apologies.</p>

[photojim]

<p>You can make D-76 from scratch. Hydroquinone, metol, sodium sulfite, and borax, if memory serves. It is no matter if Kodak discontinues it.</p>