Magnum - is this

[sam_motskin]

Well said Stephen.

 

As the saying goes pictures don't lie but people lie with pictures. The tradition of that "great German photographer" is alive and well today.I've seen enough pictures in our "market controlled media", from 2 world regions I know well, that were one sided and made to fit the political views of today's "anti-market" Liberals. It is known for a fact that some of these pictures were staged.

[mike dixon]

<i>Today, Press groups and some agencies are trying to modify this state of affairs and align the copyright law to the one prevailing in the US . . .</i><P>

It appears you have no idea what current US copyright law is. You've attempted to refute El Fang's claims by restating, in slightly different words, exactly what he said.<P>

<i>Magnum has changed its target to become a commercial affair like any other one</i><P>

Have you visited any exhibits of recent work by Magnum photographers? Examined much of their current work? If anything, because of the changes in mainstream media, Magnum is currently much <b>less</b> commercial than it was in its earlier days.

[peteradownunder]

Gilden would last maybe 10 minutes in Australia with that style of shooting - before someone took his head off. Only pansy boys with puckered PC lips and limp wristed view of how the world works - cant see what a dreadful dreadful man he must be poking flashes into people's faces like that.

[sprouty]

Hey cut me some slack, I've worn a pair of Blundstones pretty much every day of my life for the last ten years.*

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[sam_motskin]

Gilden would last maybe 10 minutes in Australia with that style of shooting"

 

He's too clever, cynical, and cowardly to do it in Australia

[matt_m__toronto_]

i'm sure if he was in downtown sydney, he'd be fine practicing his method...

[sprouty]

Yeah, based on Australia’s greatest contributions to art, culture and footwear, i.e. Air supply, Paul Hogan, and boots, they don't seem to be such a nasty lot.

[tom_higgins3]

heheh- good enuff for you pete

[tom_higgins3]

Say what you want about him, I hope someone's told him he's the subject of the longest post on the lpf for many a long

day...and who cares what he does or how he does it, you can't tell a man how to do his art- you certainly can't tell me, or

many of you for that matter, right? Whether it's sh*t on a stick, or gloriously elegant photographic contact-printed 8x10's of ice formations, it's

pretty much non-negotiable. What's a punch between <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graces">Graces</a>?

[peteradownunder]

Right you are Tom -:)

[emraphoto]

i am not entirely sure he cares tom. most folks who have reached a pinnacle such as gilden understand the difference

between "i don't like" and "it's crap".

 

i am sure magnum could pass on fella's like gilden. you know focus on the classic pen, leatherbound notebook

adventurer type. put out a coffee table book on m2/3's and cups of latte lamenting the good old days of robert and henri.

 

i am thankful that the members of magnum have had the presence of mind to take risks with new members, push the

boundaries of what we think about photography. i love the work of parr, gilden, majoli, anderson etc etc. if magnum had

chosen to rest on the laurels of the past then indeed one could question it's relevance today.

[bobtodrick]

Well put Jon!

[rui_lebreiro]

well, compare gilden w/ majoli and others... please

 

let's face it, who pays magnum these days?! i cannot figure who could be their clients

 

if you want real photo journalism you certainly won't call magnum. If you want artistic photo, you certainly

won't call magnum.

Then who?

 

I pretty much think magnum is kind of leica

 

they both have the name and the glory of old days, and live in that shadow

for now that's enough to keep breathing but in both cases, and unless serious changes are made, i don't know for

how long

[emraphoto]

have you been living under a rock? their work is all over the place!?!? check out the magnum sight... take a cruise through the awards

members of the agency are winning?!? i mean really, i can understand folks not liking the work and such but i think you're a bit off base

there.

[emraphoto]

pick up a couple of national geographic mags and see who's paying magnum members these days

[rui_lebreiro]

not gilden's work i suppose

[emraphoto]

"let's face it, who pays magnum these days?! i cannot figure who could be their clients"

 

well, national geographic to start.

[emraphoto]

SELECTED AWARDS

 

Artist's Fellowship Award, New York Foundation for the Arts, 2000

Artist's Fellowship Award, The Japan Foundation, Tokyo, Japan, 1999

European Publishers Award for Photography, 1996

Grand Prize, International Triennial Exhibition of Photography, Fribourg, Switzerland, 1985

National Endowment for the Arts Photographer's Fellowship, 1980

 

SELECTED PERMANENT COLLECTIONS

 

Museum of Modern Art, New York

Victoria and Albert Museum, London

Bibliothéque National, Paris

Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography, Tokyo, Japan

Philadelphia Museum of Art, USA

 

SELECTED SOLO EXHIBITIONS

 

'After The Off', Gallery of Photography, Dublin, Ireland, 2000

The Royal Photographic Society, Bath, UK, 1997

Leica Gallery, New York, 1997

Musee de l'Elysee, Lausanne, Switzerland, 1993

Bibliothéque Nationale, Paris, 1989

some small tidbits of gildens cred

 

SELECTED GROUP EXHIBITIONS

 

'New York Now', Museum of The City of New York, New York, 2000

'Magnum: Our Turning World', Barbican Art Gallery, London, and touring, 1999

'Who's Looking At The Family?', Barbican Art Gallery, London, 1994

'Mean Streets: American Photographs from the Collection', Museum of Modern Art, New York, 1991

Victoria and Albert Museum, London, UK, 1988

[sprouty]

<I>"not gilden's work i suppose"</I>

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You really can't be bothered with facts can you Rui?

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From Gilden's Bio on Magnum:

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<B>Awards</B>

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2000, 1992, 1979 New York Foundation for the Arts (Artist’s Fellowship), New York, USA <P>

1999 The Japan Foundation Artist’s Fellowship<P>

1996 European Publishers’ Award for Photography<P>

1995 Villa Medicis Hors les Murs Artist’s Fellowship<P>

1992, 1984, 1980 National Endowment for the Arts Photographer’s Fellowship <P>

 

<B>Selected Group Exhibitions</B><P>

 

2007 (April) l’image d’Aprés, Cinémathèque Française, Paris, France (catalogue)<P>

 

<B>Selected Solo Exhibitions</B><P>

 

2006 Siverstein Photography, New York, USA<P>

2006 Sala Municipal de Exposiciones San Benito, Valladolid, Spain<P>

2003 Carla Sozzani Gallery, Milan, Italy<P>

2002 Fotografisk Centrum, Copenhagen, Denmark<P>

1997 Royal Photographic Society, Bath, UK<P>

1993 Musée de l’Elysée, Lausanne, Switzerland<P>

1992 Chrysler Museum of Art, Norfolk, Virginia, USA<P>

 

<B>Selected Collections</B><P>

 

Tokyo Metropolitan Museum of Photography, Tokyo, Japan<P>

Museum of Modern Art, New York<P>

The Royal Photographic Society, Bath, England<P>

Victoria & Albert Museum, London, England<P>

Philadelphia Museum of Art, Philadelphia, Penn.<P>

Galerie du Chateau d’Eau, Toulouse, France<P>

Museum of Fine Arts, Houston, Texas<P>

Paris Audiovisuel, France<P>

Museet for fotokunst, Odense, Denmark<P>

Moderna Museet, Stockholm, Sweden<P>

Photographic Museum of Finland, Helsinki, Finland<P>

Musée de l’Elysée, Lausanne, Switzerland<P>

The Chrysler Museum, Norfolk, Virginia<P>

Fonds National d’Art Contemporain, Paris, France<P>

The Dreyfus Corporation, New York<P>

Brooklyn Museum, Brooklyn, New York<P>

National Gallery of Canada<P>

Fogg Art Museum, Cambridge, Mass.<P>

Wilson Centre for Photography, London, England<P>

 

<B>Books</B><P>

 

2006 Fashion Magazine, Magnum Photos, France<P>

2005 A Beautiful Catastrophe, Powerhouse, USA<P>

2002 Coney Island, Trebruk, UK<P>

2000 Go, Trebruk-Magnum, USA<P>

1999 After the Off, Dewi Lewis Publishing, UK<P>

1999 Ciganos, Centro Portuguès de Fotografia, Lisbon, Portugal<P>

1996 Haiti, Dewi Lewis Publishing and Editions Marval, UK & France<P>

1994 Bleus, Cahier#13, Mission Photographique Transmanche, <P>

CRP Nord Pas-de-Calais, France<P>

1992 Facing New York, Cornerhouse Publications, UK<P>

1990 The Small Haiti Portfolio (Limited Edition), Helsinki, Finland<P>

[emraphoto]

i researched 5 magnum photographers. between 5 of the "new breed" they held 21 major press photo awards since 2001.

pelegrin has won world press photo honors NUMEROUS times.

 

i reckon these fella's are getting jobs

[rui_lebreiro]

gilden might have all the major awards in the world,

if he behaves w/ people like we see in the video, I say "no, thanks"

[emraphoto]

i wasn't addressing gildens behavior... it was your "who hires magnum these days" business.

 

you're allowed to say "no thanks". you're even allowed to "not like it". but the fact is magnum is a working collective with

some of most professionally recognized photojournalists in the business.

[rui_lebreiro]

"recognized" ?! risky word

 

jon, your favourite photographer belongs to magnum?

any of your 3-top favourite photographers belong to magnum?

[emraphoto]

yup... some of my favorites are magnum members. anderson, koudelka, towell, majoli etc etc.

 

by "recognized" i mean 5 photographers, 21 major press awards in less than 8 years. that equals recognized for me.

[jimsimmons]

"Gilden would last maybe 10 minutes in Australia with that style of shooting - before someone took his head off."

 

In Brisbane about a year ago, I was photographing an historical building from across the street and from about 30 meters away (with a Leica!), and two drunk a**hole Australian blokes called me over to chew me out for "taking their picture." They were sitting at an outdoor bar table at a cafe on the ground floor of the building (along with lots of other cafe patrons). Tried to convince me I was breaking the law, invading their privacy, threatened to smash my camera, etc. And of course didn't have the guts to follow through on any of their threats. Give me New Yorkers any day!