benny_spinoza Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 The previous "film is making me depressed" thread was fun to read, and of course morphed somewhat into digital vs film. But hey, why not extoll the virtues of film. What I love about negative film is the large range in scene brightness that can be recorded. Attached is a low resolution jpeg of the Bourne house in Grass Valley, CA. (Called the Bourne "cottage". Because if you were literally sitting on a gold mine like the Bourne family, you too would call such a grand house a "cottage".) I wished I had recorded the scene brightness range. The sun was glaring on the stones of the house, and there was deep shade on the grass due to the large trees. This was shot on Kodak Portra 160VC, and I guessed at the exposure using sunny 16 rule. Taken hand-held with Hassy with 80mm lens, and scanned on Nikon 9000 scanner using NikonScan. I really like using Digital DEE from Applied Science Fiction that is bundled with NikonScan. Now, certainly you experts out there can improve on what I did. But without much work, I easily brought out the shadow detail and the highlight detail in the stones. (Now, before you get started, I'm told that high end digital cameras and backs can capture as much scene brightness range as color negative film when shot in RAW.) But hey, the cool thing about film is that for a few bucks a roll and a decent camera (and a good scanner), one can indeed get some nice results from difficult subjects. Please share examples you have of what film can do.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 HDR would have done a better job and you would have not to have processed and scanned film. But since you have a film scan, go back and rescan it twice, once for the bright leaves and once for the shadows and join them up as you would HDR and two digi files. The Lights Right Studio-- digital darkroom tab- blended images. See how to do it on a nice video. I have to agree, film is nice, but I have gotten lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_norman4 Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Ronald, Every tried HDR on a breezy day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny_spinoza Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 And here is another example, taken inside a museum lighted by flourescent light. It was vey bright outside. (NorthStar mining museum, Grass Valley.) Again, using digital DEE on the Nikon 9000, I easily brought out the detail of the trees, etc., on the outside, and yet kept the information on the inside lighted by flourescent light. (My daughter is blurred because I shot at a slow shutter speed. I rested my camera on some furniture.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny_spinoza Posted August 15, 2008 Author Share Posted August 15, 2008 Dang...I meant to upload this one.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_delear Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 Hum some fun with film as of two days ago.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_delear Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 And this one<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen_delear Posted August 15, 2008 Share Posted August 15, 2008 And one more shapes picture.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christopher_m Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I like the fact that I would need a huge Nikon D80 to take as good of pictures as my Bessa-R with some Velvia or Kodachrome. <p> You can't do time exposure with <a href=" exposure</a> or <a href=" as well with digital. <p> I also how I take more time to think about my shots, since they are limited. Something about black and white in digital does have the same artistic value. This is <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/28882854@N00/2766528487/sizes/l/">one of my favorites.</a> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_gale Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Went on a four day vacation, shot at least fifteen rolls, spend tomorrow in the darkroom, film is making me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gladys_lara1 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I am a film ONLY photographer, because it makes happy!<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gladys_lara1 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Here is another one, because it makes me happy!<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 I am a Film Only photographer because you just can't fake real grain in Digital<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randrew1 Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 Here's a picture that I would never capture on a good digital camera. The only way that I know of to get there is to wade in waist deep water through a tunnel as as it goes under a 150 ft high rail road embankment. http://homepage.mac.com/randrews4/.Pictures/Waterfalls/040903LtlMlCrBlwRRUprFlsW.jpg<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted August 16, 2008 Share Posted August 16, 2008 film is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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benny_spinoza Posted August 17, 2008 Author Share Posted August 17, 2008 Andy, The color on that car looks great. How did you scan 160nc. Did you add saturation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akochanowski Posted August 17, 2008 Share Posted August 17, 2008 I scan on a KM Dimage 5400 II. I don't think I added any saturation, there was strong light and a metallic paint job on that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverscape Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 Thank you, Benny! This was a BADLY needed topic! :) <p> I posted these pictures on another forum earlier, so I hope it's not considered cross-posting. But these are from my Argus C-44 and Kodak Gold 200 film. I took these about a week ago: <p> <img src="http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f86/gatewaycityca/church_august_7_2008_small.jpg"> <p> <img src="http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f86/gatewaycityca/meyers_road_august_7_2008_small.jpg"> <p> <img src="http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f86/gatewaycityca/sunflower_selective_focus_aug_7_200.jpg"><p> Film definitely makes me happy. I love using manual film cameras that are WAY older than me and still work great! I like using a real, all-metal camera. I love how the shutter <i>snaps</i> resolutely when you fire it, leaving no doubt that you have just burned a frame of film and created a real, <i>permanent</i> photograph. No wimpy beep of a digital camera. And I like how film gives much warmer colors with better tones. <p> Yeah, let's talk about film in the <b>FILM</b> forum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_devlin Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I have to second Les's comment - there are few things quite so satisfying than shooting the optimum ISO film in a good camera at the correct settings, with little room for error, and getting the exact image that you intended to. It's a high. Oh, and picking up a slide and viewing it - a real and tangible object that I can hold in my hand - makes me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antony_glaser Posted August 18, 2008 Share Posted August 18, 2008 I enjoy collecting Cameras, and building up on their respective accessories. Reading old reviews and Photography magazines are often, my source of then consumer advice, and like a time machine, I alter my technological aspirations and realisations, by up grading on designs and varying SLR functions - especially the appreciation of differing metering types, and power sources. Average / Centre Weighted, Cds or Silicon etc. I have been impressed with the M42 Pentax Spotmatic and have fast forward to the Nikon FM. Sandwiched between the two has been the birth Mother of the compact SLR, the Olympus OM1, and the giant Nikkormat FT2, as the High Priest of the Analogue System. Auto Exposure is a step too far, it foregoes the shutter dial, and I am cheated that glorious user feel, that is akin to Manual control. For me Film, is about mechanical soundness and the love of design of those 1970's Cameras. Built to last . Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny_spinoza Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 And another example of how easy it is to capture shadow and highlight detail in color negative film. No chimping at histograms. Just shoot, and then move on to the next thing. Kodak 400VC, 35mm film, el cheapo Nikon 50mm f1.8 D lens on el expensive Nikon F6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny_spinoza Posted August 18, 2008 Author Share Posted August 18, 2008 Sorry. That ain't Colma. (Colma, CA, is where a bunch of cemeteries are.) The name escapes me, but the pic was shot in Marshall Gold Discovery part off of route 49 where Sutter mill was. The city nearby starts with a "C". Can't seem to remember it right now. Anyway... I digress. Film is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_j_goffredi Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 For me part of the joy of photography is taking the picture and knowing its my skill that achieves the end result and not a computer, but also, the sheer joy of holding a great print in my hands always wins over looking at a computer screen. I recently showed an album of photos of a trip I had just returned from to a friend and they couldn't stop commenting on how great it was to look at real pictures! I don't have anything against digital per say, just that I prefer real pictures :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_bergman1 Posted August 19, 2008 Share Posted August 19, 2008 "holding a great print in my hands always wins over looking at a computer screen. " One day I hope that we will be able to make prints of digital images. Wouldn't it be great to hook up some device, let's call it a printer, to our computers and make a representation of what we see on the monitor? We could even use color inks. If the manufactures would use pigment inks the prints would last a long time. Some people call me a dreamer but I think it could happen in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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