marco_buonocore Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Hello, The subject title sort of says it all. I've not had much experience with using flash, but understand the principles. I'm searching for a small flash to go on my Olympus 35 SP rangefinder camera. Right now I'm using my father's old Maxwell 303-H, which is okay insofar as the GN is concerned (I get a GN of about 16m at ISO 100), but it's very slow recycling. Can't fault it, as it's only using 2 x AA batteries. Is there anything on the market that fits the following criteria: - Can dial the output down to a GN of 10m or less - very fast recycling time; ie: 3s or less - smallish size (I've got a Metz 45 somewhere, but it's ridiculous on the little Olympus!) The lens on the Olympus 35 SP is fixed at 42mm. My goal is to use the flash at night, shooting subjects fairly close up (1.5m- 2m) getting a fairly wide aperture and dragging the shutter to 1/30 or 1/15 to get some of the background detail. I reckon I'll use Kodak Tri-X in a developer like Harvey's 777 (I get ISO 200). Any ideas? I see a lot of Vivitar 283's on the local craigslist - any chance that they fit the bill? I appreciate all your help! Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 In a way, what you want is not really related. A low GN flash is usually going to have a slow recycle time. I think you want a flash that either has more battery for faster recharging, but that takes up more space, so that won't work. A higher GN flash does not mean it will take longer to charge. In fact, unless you're completely discharging it altogether, such as manually, a higher GN flash used at a closer range is going to cycle in a split second. I'd highly recommend you consider another Metz if the one you have is too large. The power management in a lot of the newer flashes is much better than the old timers. Even a Nikon SB400 or SB600 might be an okay size to use. On the other end of the spectrum, you might look into the low-powered ringlights at the major photo sites. They're LED powered, low power consumption, and work mainly for macro work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Not sure if this is what you are looking for. I bought a couple of these from eBay($12.99) to help me with close-ups and macro work. The recycle time is nothing to write about. Brand NEW Holga Flash 120 mini Package Includes: - Holga 120 mini flash - English manual Compatibility The Holga flash features will work with any manual hotshoe camera. This includes Fed 5’s, Smena Symbols, Seagull TLR’s, classic SLR cameras, and a ton of other photo-jewels. Specification Guide Number (ISO 100,m) : 12 Batteries to be Used : AA Type x 1 pcs Angles of illumination : Horizontal 50 degree, Vertical 40 degree Colour Temperature : 5600K Recycle Time : 6-8 sec. Flash Duration 1/1000 sec.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryp Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 <a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/101640-REG/">Vivitar 2800 Auto Shoe Mount Flash</a><p> Includes bounce head & choice of two auto f.stop settings. Weighs 6 oz. Sort of the 283's baby brother. :-)<p> -- <br> Henry Posner <br> <b>B&H Photo-Video</b> Henry Posner B&H Photo-Video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco_buonocore Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 Henry, Thanks ever so much. That seems pretty much exactly what I'm after. The gels can help me bring down the output if it's a bit to strong. Perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 in what universe is 6-8 seconds a fast recycle time? <p>Just get a high powered flash and use it at a low setting. The SB800 on 1/128th power recycles almost instantly. I imagine the SB600 would too. Tape all the hotshoe contacts except the middle one (I think) for manual use only, or tape them all and use a sync cord. <p> I wouldn't worry about looking ridiculous because your flash is bigger than your camera. If anyone is going to think you look ridiculous, it will be for having a camera that is smaller than your flash.<p>And why do you care about how you look? if your trying to use this rig to pick up girls or something, you need to completely rethink everything. Besides, you'll be working in the dark.. right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marco_buonocore Posted August 11, 2008 Author Share Posted August 11, 2008 Tom, I think the SB800 would overkill for what I'm doing; it would be utterly wasted, in fact. I'd appreciate the fast recycling time, no doubt, but would rather resent the $300 I spent to get it. I'm certainly not fussed about how I look in the field, but if I can use something less cumbersome than a potato masher then I certainly will. I think something like the Vivitar 2800 that Henry Posner suggested represents a good middle ground. The Sunpak 383 has also been suggested, which seems to fit the bill. And for the record, I pick up girls with nothing more than my good looks and charm. I happen to be blessed with both. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmeyer Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Ha! <p>well said... t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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