andrew_hoi Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hi, I'm had less experience in B & W (actually just a little bit in TMAX and HC-110 in method B). the question is, I want to try process 2 rolls TMAX400 at one time with HC-110 in method H... So, Do i need to add more HC-110 ? If so, how many i should add ? and How long should i process for this case ? THX :) Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 If method H is dilution H, you need twice the volumn of liquid to develope 2 rolls as one even if two reels will fit in the amount of liquid you use for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeseb Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 You need around 5 or 6 mL of the HC-110 concentrate (syrup) per roll of film, regardless how you dilute it. The more dilute, the greater volume of working (diluted) solution will be required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hoi Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hi Michael, So... Can I dilute 1:10 (or 1:12) to 600mL solution then process 2 rolls of film ? If so, is it as same the process time as dilution H ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeseb Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 You have to have enough working-strength solution to provide enough developer concentrate to adequately develop the exposed silver in the roll of film, and to adequately cover the film in the tank. Whichever of these two solution volumes is greater controls how much developer working solution you need. In most cases, you'll wind up using more concentrate than is theoretically required to develop the film because you need a larger working solution volume to physically submerge it in the tank. On the other hand, you don't want to overfill the tank, either.<br /><br /> Dilution B is 1+31 from the syrup. With HC110 I'd not bother making the stock solution--just pick up one of those syringes for kids' medicines from the drugstore and measure the syrup with that.<br /><br /> If you're doing two rolls you need 10-12 mL of syrup--again, someone may correct me, but 5-6mL per roll is the minimum quoted on <a href="http://www.covingtoninnovations.com/hc110/" target="_blank">Covington's "HC-110 Unofficial Resource" web page</a>, and is what I've always used. Say it's 10 mL--you need 310 mL of water to mix it with (300 is close enough––you'll be adjusting your times anyway.) So now you have around 320 mL total working solution volume. This is enough solution to develop the silver, but is it enough to cover the film in the tank?<br /><br /> I use a Jobo, which is pretty economical with chemistry, but I need around 350 mL of solution to physically cover two rolls of film in the large Jobo tank; so I need slightly more syrup than the minimum, at 1+31. I typically use either 1+30, 1+40, or 1+50 dilutions, rounded to make life simple; at 6mL per roll or 12mL for two rolls, this gives me about 372, 492, or 612 ml of final working solution for two rolls, if I've done the math right. In all cases, this is enough to cover two rolls of film in the Jobo, but not overfill the tank.<br /><br /> @Andrew, if I understand your question, you want to make 600mL working solution at dilution H, which is 1+63 from the syrup. This means a little more than 9 mL of concentrate, which is not enough for two rolls of film. At dilution H, you'd need a minimum of 12mL syrup + 756 mL water, or 768 mL final solution volume. As long as you can get nearly 800mL of solution into your tank, you're good to go. If not, then you'll be able to develop only one roll at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hoi Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 Michael, THX... Yes, I know at least 6mL of syrup need for each roll.... Eventually I do it one by one. The result is nice... Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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