michaelc Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 Well, I guuess it had to happen. I was hoping it wouldn't but it appears I have no choice. If you remember I posted about a brass washer/spacer that fell out of my K10D while I was cleaning the focusing screen. I could not tell where it came from and solicited help on a number of forums including this one. No one seemed to know. I turned it into my local camera speciality shop and he had no idea. I phoned Pentax USA and got no help other than to refer me to Pentax Canada. I phoned Pentax Canada and all they would say was sent it in........I don't want to sent my baby all the way to Toronto. She has never been away from home without me. She doesn't like to be alone with strangers and I think her shutter shakes when I'm not there........:) I guess I have no choice in this matter since I don't want to have it sit with a piece out on the table. Doesn't seem to affect performance as I know it. Maybe it has something to do with the SR or cleaning the mirror. Anyway, any suggestions on how to pack it etc. I guess I will send it by courier with a signature required. Should I insure it? They say they will get back with an estimate within four days of receipt. I am hoping it is a small repair and I will have it back within a month. Is that wishful thinking? I just got two new lens and I have been dying to try them out. RATS. Oh well, I have no one to blame but mayself. Should have followed Rose's advice........ Anyone have any experience in sending their camera to Pentax Canada. Are they expensive and do they do good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shots worth sharing Posted March 3, 2008 Share Posted March 3, 2008 I have no relevant experience of competence so all I can do is wish you luck. I expect it'll get appropriately addressed but I can imagine you'll miss it. It's this sort of possibility than makes me glad I have a k10d *and* a k100d--being camera-less would drive me nuts. (It *is* an addiction isn't it?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserere_mei Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Michael, could you post a photograph of the washer before you send it off? It will help other users for posterity if the same thing happens to them and they search on the internet. Also, remember that we have cameras for the World, not for Ourselves. Or was that "kids"... I'm not sure now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norman_sun Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I tried Pentax USA repair center for a faulty aperture control on my K100d. The whole experience is sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stemked Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I once sent a Pentax Super Program from the US to Nova Scotia for repairs. Big mistake. I sent it UPS and on its return I got charged a large import fee, for my own camera! I tried to argue the point but hit enough dead ends that I finally gave in. I suppose if your repair person in Toronto has done this before and knows what documentation to use you should be fine. But the import duty was twice the repair price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david richhart Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 When crossing the border, you can fill out a form that registers your higher priced items such as cameras, guns, and electronics. It serves as proof that you are not importing equipment. It never occurred to me that it might be necessary when mailing. Thanks for the heads-up Douglas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_stevenson Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Quite frankly, if the camera is operating properly it would be better to forget the washer,...just keep it in a safe place until you can find out more info or the camera stops working..... K10 is an obsolete camera and in a couple of years time will be more or less worthless junk. You need to get the full use out while it's in your hand because these are disposable items now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelc Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 Here is a picture of the washer/gasket in question. It is about 1/2 inch round.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelc Posted March 4, 2008 Author Share Posted March 4, 2008 Bob, I hope you are wrong and the K10D doesn't become a piece of worthless junk in two or three years time. It took me that long to save up for this one........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauren_macintosh Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 To me that looks more like a gold chain ring to hold something on the chain : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morgan lee Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I'm with Lauren. I really don't think that came out of your camera. If you look insided your camera body, that 7/16" ring would be HUGE. Where would it go? Do what you must but I'm 90% sure that ring has nothing to do with the operation of your K10D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
audun_sjoeseth1 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 I am 99.99% shure that that ring has nothing to do inside of a K10D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garry_young1 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Michael, I might not be a camera technician, but I have recently stripped a Pentax P30T down to the very last screw, and for a non-digital camera made back in the 80's, it has very precise parts. I would say there is very little chance that the ring shown was "intended" to be in your K10D. That is definitely not a precision piece, and for the life of me, I cannot think of what function that would serve! Could it not have come from somewhere in the immediate environment while you were cleaning the focusing screen? As you were "cleaning" and not "changing" your focusing screen, I would say there is very little chance that it just fell out if it was meant to be there! There is a scary corollary to that, what was it doing in there? And how long had it been in there? I could only imagine the damage that would do to sensors and mirrors, just falling around! Can you not go and ask one or two more pro camera shops in your area before sending it off? Wish you the best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelc Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 Well now I am in a quandry. I have the K10D packed and ready to go to Pentax Canada but a number of posts have cuased me to reconsider my actions. I remember that when I was cleaning the focusing screen, I had the K10D up in the face down as you are supposed to ensuring that dust does not enter the camera and I shook the body to get the focusing screen bracket to realign. That is when I noticed the brass wahser on the table surface. I seem to remember seeing it fall out but I can't swear on that. All the functions on the camera appear to work but I have no idea if for instance the SR system is functioning as it should, or the dust remvoal system. I did notice that for the first day or two after cleaning the focusing screen, I appeared to have a black space on top and below the picture when I looked through the LCD panel of tne back of the camera. This could have been a misallignment of the focusing screen but it appeared to be sitting properly in the metal holder. My pictures (after I downloaded them to my computer)also appeared to be off to the right a bit but that seems to have corrected itself. I agree that the piece seems rather large but I have no idea what they use for say SR or to keep the mirror in balance. At this point, I am not sure what to do. Use the camera until I notice something not working? How will I know if say the SR, dust removal or mirror stability is working properly? I have no idea if I send it in to Pentax Canada and it is not a part what they would charge. I am sure that courier costs are going to be at least $50.00. Phoning Pentax Canada and getting info from them it would appear they were not familar with a piece like that in the camera, but they were very non commital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_whitton Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 >>> I did notice that for the first day or two after cleaning the focusing screen, I appeared to have a black space on top and below the picture when I looked through the LCD panel of tne back of the camera. <<< This is normal, as the LCD is a different aspect ratio than the sensor. Until you zoom into the picture on the LCD there is nothing to display in these "black areas". A bit like watching a wide-screen movie on a 4:3 television. (You can change the default zoom in the menus, if you don't like the bars.) Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Looks like the ring on the little fabric envelope that comes with Sandisc memory...this mornings waitress had a bunch of them too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raybrizzi Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 through her nose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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