www.philwinterphotography. Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 It won't come up for me, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheryl_w__blue_mt._ Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 It wont come up for me either... rats, I'm curious, too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aepelbacher Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I understand being curious ... but I have to add that if the site were up, it would probably NOT HELP our cause to keep clicking through to it. The more hits that site gets, specifically the more hits one of our tagged photos/groups of photos gets, will likely only serve to prove that they're not some rogue upstart of a wannabe company. (Right?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reprint Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 The site is down because photo.net members served them notice of violation of copyright. GoDaddy took the site down. I know it is a long thread but all the info is there. As for the website, it has about 38,000 page views a month so they probably were making some money from our photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kentb2 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I don't think were out of the woods yet. As of 7:45 PM MST the site is still up. I have been able to find 25 of my images so far at this link: http://pic1.playcomet.com/search.aspx?q=kent%20b Some of these images have been sold and published by legitimate patrons. I would like to thank everyone for all the focused attention to this matter. Kent b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mixmasta Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Yup.....the site is STILL up! Just found every photo that was taken... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshroot Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Please keep in mind that there may be nothing we can do. Any success we have had so far was based upon a US host shutting their account down. If the website is moved to another server that is outside of the US, there is likely nothing that can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulstenquist Posted February 12, 2008 Author Share Posted February 12, 2008 It's not STILL up. It's up again. It was down for a day or more. Apparently, they found a new server or GoDaddy decided there wasn't reason enough to take it down. If people care enought, they'll have to get after them again. Some of my pics are back up, but I'm not terribly worried about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reprint Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 they changed IP. I filed another DMCA since it only takes 2 seconds. The better way longer term is to fax a complaint to google adsense as above. Then they cant make money from our photos no matter what their ip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lburk1 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I just tried it moments ago and it's down. 7:39 PST http://www.playcomet.com/ & http://www.pic.playcomet.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reprint Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Lavern, it was moved to pic1.playcomet.com. By moving ip however they are now out of the search engines so they should be hurting for traffic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lburk1 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 I recently read an article in Popular Photography, February 2008 issue titled Grand Theft Photo. It goes into detail about protecting your photos. The main point is if the photos aren't copyrighted then you really have no recourse. It's not too difficult to do if you already have your workflow organized. go to http://www.copyright.gov/register/visual.html to see how it's done. You can actual copyright thousands of photos pretty easy. The article written by Neal Matthews points out that not only should professionals copyright their work, but amatures as well. Obviously you never know who is going to steal from you. Check out the article. It is worth a few minutes. Here's the link. http://www.popphoto.com/popularphotographyfeatures/5001/grand-theft-photo.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lburk1 Posted February 12, 2008 Share Posted February 12, 2008 Thanks Barry. I just checked it and they have 12 of mine. I would almost feel honored that someone wants my photos, if they weren't stolen. Does anybody here know how to launch a DNS attack? (:-{)} Kidding. I wouldn't do that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 As I suspected they would do, they've shifted the server to china. A tracert on pic1.playcomet.com ends up at IP 222.73.227.218. Records don't indicate exactly who that is: Details: ns.sta.net.cn. (an authoritative nameserver for 73.222.in-addr.arpa., which is in charge of the reverse DNS for 222.73.227.218) says that there are no PTR records for 222.73.227.218. To get reverse DNS set up for 222.73.227.218, you need to speak to your Internet provider. You could also check with root@ns.sta.net.cn., who is in charge of the 73.222.in-addr.arpa. zone. At this point complaints to Google might be the most effective solution, though that won't shut the site down, it will just stop their Adsense advertsising (assuming Google ever do anything speed to complaints though. BTW pic.playcomet.com is now back on line too. The final IP in the tracert ends up at 72.167.47.6, which corresponds again to secureserver.net. As indicated above (somewhere) , that tracks to Wild West Domains, which looks like it's GoDaddy.com again. If I was playcomet.com, I'd just shift the DNS severs for the pic.playcomet.com domain to the Chinese servers. That way I'd keep all the search engine rankings I had. Maybe that's what they are doing and the pic.playcomet.com site may just be up while they do that. Who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Here's the full trace. As you can see, the last few hops are all in China.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch_tbhotmail.com Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Damn, they got 10 of mine. I too added to the growing number of voices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lorilafs Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 jOSH...THANKS, ONCE MORE, FOR ALL THE TIME YOU'VE PUT IN ON THIS TOPIC. WHEN DO YOU SLEEP--OR EAT, FOR THAT MATTER?!? HAVE YOU HEARD FROM THE LAWYER YET? DID SHE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE AND THINK WE CAN DO? which, now that they're in China, looks like we won't be able to much of anything. Still curious as to her input, tho. Bob, I'd like to thank you, too, for all the work you've DONE since this happened. I don't know how you do all that finite research, but I'm impressed, and I for, one appreciate your doing all of it for us. I'm calling it a night, folks....sleep well, my friends Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birteragland Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I just found 50 of mine on this site. Why all the fuss,they are credited with the correct names,so your work is being spread around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Taylor Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Maybe if you all throw in 40 bucks each you can send someone over there to yell at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reprint Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Interesting. pic.playcomet.com is back up and ip is 72.167.47.67 which is GoDaddy again. GoDaddy is not allowed to put back up the website till a counterclaim is made and then only 10 days after the counterclaim. I will follow up with them tomorrow when i have time out of interest. pic1.playcomet.com as Bob pointed out is hosted in china but is very slow. pic1 is not indexed by the major search engines which is why they want pic.playcomet.com back. For pic1 i get % [whois.apnic.net node-1] % Whois data copyright terms http://www.apnic.net/db/dbcopyright.html inetnum: 222.64.0.0 - 222.73.255.255 netname: CHINANET-SH descr: CHINANET shanghai province network descr: China Telecom descr: No1,jin-rong Street descr: Beijing 100032 country: CN admin-c: CH93-AP tech-c: XI5-AP changed: **********@apnic.net 20031024 mnt-by: APNIC-HM mnt-lower: MAINT-CHINANET-SH mnt-routes: MAINT-CHINANET-SH remarks: This object can only modify by APNIC hostmaster remarks: If you wish to modify this object details please remarks: send email to **********@apnic.net with your remarks: organisation account name in the subject line. status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE source: APNIC person: Chinanet Hostmaster nic-hdl: CH93-AP e-mail: *********@ns.chinanet.cn.net address: No.31 ,jingrong street,beijing address: 100032 phone: +86-10-58501724 fax-no: +86-10-58501724 country: CN changed: ******@cndata.com 20070416 mnt-by: MAINT-CHINANET source: APNIC person: Wu Xiao Li address: Room 805,61 North Si Chuan Road,Shanghai,200085,PRC country: CN phone: +86-21-63630562 fax-no: +86-21-63630566 e-mail: ********@mail.online.sh.cn nic-hdl: XI5-AP mnt-by: MAINT-CHINANET-SH changed: ********@mail.online.sh.cn 20010510 source: APNIC If they move everything to the chinese server, good for them because its very slow. Keeping them off US servers and canceling their adsense account would keep me happy. then they are not making money off our photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reprint Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Oh i forgot one other reason godaddy might have reactivated their account, from GoDaddy: If the site owner indicates they are ready to remove the infringing content, we will re-activate the hosting account in order to allow that to happen. We will see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WJT Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hi <b>Birte</b>, it's just a hypothetical, but what if you had just sold the exclusive rights of one of those ripped images to someone? You can delete it from PhotoNet but not from playcomet. And they are really not giving proper credits, not the way I see it. A proper credit would have precise contact information so that anyone interested in <i>legitimately</i> acquiring the image would know exactly where to go.<br><br> Has anyone tried to download any particular image group from playcomet? When I try using Mozilla I get an error. Using IE I get a message that tells me I need to install an Active-X plug-in. I'm curious what size/quality the downloaded image file would be. Regards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim craig Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 "Has anyone tried to download any particular image group from playcomet? " Downloading an image group requires the installation of Bitcomet. I'm assuming that is some kind of peer to peer software similar to Bit Torrent. I'm not going to install it to find out in any event. I assume it is the sameI can right click on any of my individual images and save them using Firefox. The images are the same size as they were when I uploaded them on Photonet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodymelanson Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 64 of mine. Booyah! =P They give me full credit for them all. Free advertising rocks! Thanks Chas for pointing me to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photis santamouris Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Law 2121/1993 states that the creator and owner of any intellectual product holds the copyright of his work. No more verification is required in my country. For everyone:Room 805,in a Shanghai road?High enough to make a mustard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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