sandysocks Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Something that should be simple has me scratching my head. I was contacted by someone who saw one of my shots in a 2008 calendar. She wants a print for her office. Next, she wants to know about getting hold of the negative because several of the folks who work there seem to also want copies for their homes. It seemed ok at first to me and I thought something could be worked out. But after thinking about it for a bit, I began to have doubts. The image is digital. A cd could be copied perfectly for infinity number of times. These copies could lay around for years while folks forgot where they came from. I could eventually see the image somewhere with someone else's name on it, through error if not intent. It seems so easy to lose control of an image. I need to reach an agreement with the buyer over the internet with terms acceptable to us both. How would you handle this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
art_haykin Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Tell them you'll sell them copies of the calendar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timkeller Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I'd offer prints only, for as many as want them, but not give them the digital file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Simple solution: Make the prints yourself or have a lab make them for you. Slightly more complicated solution; learn to use the IPTC fportions of your meta data and add your name, contact, and copyright information. Then make your image canvas slightly larger than your image and in that new border area ?RL POTTS and how to contact you. And then register your copyrights to your images. How many 600x900 pixel moderately compressed jpegs do you think you can fit on a DVD-R or CD-R? I don't know either but lets say we its at least several hundred. You can register your copyright on all of them for $40.00 and 10 minutes of filling out paperwork. The benefit of registering your copyright is that it provides for large statutory damages if someone knwingly violates your copyright. How would they know that thye are doign this? By removing that border when they go to print or try to resell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffs1 Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 Typically, pricing is per use (i.e. per copy), so there would (should?) be little/no cost-benefit in the users having the prints made themselves (unless the plan to cheat you and make more than agreed). I'd spin it positively by saying the quality of the prints from you will be higher than from an arbitrary photo-finisher (ex. Costco) because you will have vetted the color management, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandysocks Posted November 13, 2007 Author Share Posted November 13, 2007 The quick responses are just amazing. Thanks everybody. I do need to look more closely at my IPTC options in Lightroom. Ellis, the information is valuable and I will not forget any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlkphoto Posted November 13, 2007 Share Posted November 13, 2007 I would NEVER send a negative or full resolution digital file to such a customer unless I no longer cared about ever making money from the image. In this case, I'd be very suspicious as to why they don't just buy prints from you if that's what they really want. All the above about copyrighting your images is good advice but the reality is that unless the thief using your images is making a huge amount of money from them, AND YOU CAN PROVE IT, there is zero financial incentive to pursue them. It makes no sense to spend $300 or $400 per hour hiring an attorney unless you can prove you've suffered a huge loss. Even then, you many never get more than a judgement you can't collect. Better to never allow the theft in the first place, if at all possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniel_smith6 Posted November 16, 2007 Share Posted November 16, 2007 To add to Ellis excellent information. If the people decide to remove your copyright info from the files and print them they put themselves directly into the realm of criminal activity as printed in the Digital Millenium Copyright act. Removing the copyright puts them in statutory penalties and negates any defense of 'I didn't know'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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