www.withheart.ca Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Hey there, I've got a keep ya on your toes lighting situation in an upcoming shoot. Dark, dark tiny rooms, dark wood ceilings and backlit by bright windows. I was thinking to over power the tungsten light and use flash/window light. The example shot below was taken with the following settings: 28mm f2.8 1/50 Manual mode TTL Flash -2 with Fong Diffuser no gel on the flash White Balance: Flash I'm getting a strange green cast in the background. Can/should I do anything about it? I'll post a more zoomed in shot in a minute.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 the green cast is from light bouncing off of the trees outside the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.withheart.ca Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 Ok here's the zoomed in shot. Settings are 50mm f1.4 1/50 ISO 400, White Balance Daylight, Flash no gel -2 TTL<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 so how does zooming in change anything in the white balance? The green on the door and on the beams is from green light reflected off of either trees or grass. Would you like me to say it LOUDER? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.withheart.ca Posted May 31, 2007 Author Share Posted May 31, 2007 LOL. It doesn't change anything! It just shows what I was talking about more loudly. Plus, silly, I posted this while you were answering. Thanks Ellis for pointing out where the cast came from. I was, however hoping to see if there was a creative way (other than converting to B&W or cutting down the trees) to eliminate the green cast. Anyone have any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffs1 Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 "a creative way (other than converting to B&W or cutting down the trees) to eliminate the green cast." Duplicate the image in a second layer, color-correct the door area, and then use a layer mask to blend the two images together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiyen Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 ellis - having a bad day? allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ni_gentry Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 I think photo.net forums is where a lot of people with "bad days" come to vent :0<p> I say as long as if the the skin tones on your (people) subjects look good, then all's well. If you don't like green, then simply go into your color adjustment tool of choice and lower the Saturation for the green channel, or change the hue to something less green... as long as the bride's not wearing a green dress and there are no other greens in the image, that green cast is the only portion of the image that will be affected. Simple, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 For the scene you have, it is perfect. Soft warm inside light. The green is from outside which will have a different white balance than inside. Should you fix it? I would worry far more that it is all blown out. That I would fix if it goes in the album. The final amd most important question is how do people look. There are no people here, but you must make them look good at all costs. Since you are flash balanced, included people will most likely look good. I love having tungsten lights show in a flash shot. In darker areas slow the shutter to 1/15 at 5.6 to pick up the indoor ambient lighting fixtures, although 2.8 at 1/50 is about the same. Using 2.8 does not give much debth in wedding work. The flash will freeze the subject and 1/15 is sufficiently short to not get blur in the lights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
susan_flewelling1 Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Well I am also thinking that changing the time of day that you shoot may also change the green light. Like photographing when the sun is on the other side of the building to give you a flatter light. But I tend to like the warm tones in here so I would definately have to think about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstudio Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Duplicate a layer, go to selective color ond bring down the cyan in the yellows or neutrals and erase the areas that are not green. Heres a quicky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelle a. Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 What Marcos did looks really good! But seriously I'm wtih Ni here, if your skin tones on the couple look good, than I wouldn't bother with the background..... What's there is there.... and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Dear Allen, Having an excellent day Allan. How about you? Ellis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaiyen Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Ellis, You just seemed kinda testy considering you posted in the 5 minute span between posts. Glad to hear you're well :-) apologies for the digression, allan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturesque Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 What's going to happen in the room? The lighting I might set up for bridal formals, the ceremony, and/or the reception might be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma_ho_fong Posted May 31, 2007 Share Posted May 31, 2007 Great shoot! But may I suggest you to NOT do anything to eliminate the green cast? If you correct the green color to the same color of the wood and over-power the lighting, your picture will become very ordinary, flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric v Posted June 1, 2007 Share Posted June 1, 2007 Try a gel to match the two sources? Others will have more knowledge on that subject than me. What did the scene look like with other white balances? I probably wouldn't worry about it. Chances are most of my shots (if it were me) would be from the window side facing in to the room to work with the light instead of against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.withheart.ca Posted June 1, 2007 Author Share Posted June 1, 2007 Working like a wild woman today,and so sorry for the short response. Thanks for the great ideas! :) Someone was asking what I will be shooting on those stairs. It will be candids of the Ceremony. Thanks again! I'll try and post what I decided to go with later for anyone who wants to see. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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