nasser1 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 would you (Alternative process) people helping me finding the right process for the fallowing situation: I am shooting with 400 TMAX. I set my camera on a tripods, load my 8x10 film holder after viewing the seen and adjustments and all that, take off my exposure meter and looked at the fallowing: a big tree in the med afternoon with too much details in its shadow that I would like to catch, in the same time I don't want to miss the great looking buildings in the background. well I am doing a negative with a great contrast to mach the tone scale of the Pt.Pd. paper.. the shadow of the tree that hold the details under it falls at zone III, and the background (the buildings)view falls at zone V. what would you do guys? and how about the process mater if it would be with Kodak D76? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 If I understand, there are only 4 zones, 2 to 5. Why is this a problem? I would give normal exposure at zone 3 to 4 and standard development for the process. If you mean the building is in 9 or IX, now there are seven and you need detail in 2. Then I would put the tree shadow in 3 so it is one stop under middle grey, then develope so that 9 is printable. This is somewhere about a 2 stop pull. Try cutting the normal development 40%. The problem is when you cut development that much, film speed falls so matbe you have to give even more exposure. Perhaps divided D76 or d23 or divided D23 would be better. You really have to work these out for yourself. Make a mask so you expose only 1/4 the neg and make 4 exposures. Cut it in the dark and work out the time developing on 4x5 piece at a time You can also mask a too contrasty neg before you print. Dye dodge, contrast mask on film, or thin paper perhaps with pencil work. Lots of ways to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasser1 Posted June 2, 2007 Author Share Posted June 2, 2007 Thank you Ronald, I forgot to mantion that I am doing this for platinum and palladium printing.. I was wounduring if I could even put the shadow under zone 5!.. I am looking for a more dens negative.. and wounduring if the development could be OK for 20 mintes because both lighting are fulling between 3 to 5.. wich make the Kodak tmax (20 min development) mater is a must for what is in Dick Arnetz's book! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronald_moravec1 Posted June 2, 2007 Share Posted June 2, 2007 Never did plat printing, but I do know the neg needs to have more contrast. Middle tones should go in 5. Shadows go lower. If I want to see detail fully, 3 1/2 or 4 is as low as I go. I would not recommend time for a process I never did. If it were me, I would make various negs developed for different times and see what worked. Times others use are not necessarily transferable. Water & chemical activity vary. I do have times I sent to other people and they get perfect results using my times. This means they agitate just like i do and the water is the same and their thermometers match mine or errors cancel. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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