William Kahn Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Well, I had pretty much the same experience. It just took me a lot longer to figure it out, but at least I got a retirement out of it. Now I know you were in California, too....:-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 <I> I got out of law enforcement when I realized I'd be dealing with the same people for the rest of my life. It gave me a very poor impression of people in general, because I only dealt with the small percentage of people who are complete knuckle draggers and those whom they victimize.</I><P> Heh heh... Really. Still claiming you don't have an agenda? www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigwam jones Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share Posted March 18, 2007 Ummm, I don't think too highly of the human race? Is that an agenda? I'm lost, you'll have to explain to me what my agenda is. I'm willing to listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sylvan_rambo Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 By law in Ontario Canada it IS legal for women to go topless in public. I assume thats 18 and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norma Desmond Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Wigwam, isn't it clear? When one disagrees with you, you automatically have an "agenda." It is a fairly transparent and typical way of being dismissive. My other favorite is using the word "defensive" about someone who has a point of view other than one's own. Kind of avoids the actual issue and moves on to personality (logicians call them <i>ad hominem</i> attacks or fallacies), often resorted to when an argument of substance just isn't there to be found. We didn't need dialogue. We had faces! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phyrpowr Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 Sylvan, is it legal to photograph them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
les Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 The point is: either something is legal, or illegal. If it is legal, then "leaning on" somebody to stop doing it is illegal. One more example of double standards. OTOH, each of us needs to live in a community and a certain degree of compliance does wonders sometimes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_Lai Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 It is legal in Ontario CANADA for women to walk around topless. The case stemmed from when a female working outdoors on a hot day took her top off. She was arrested for indecent exposure. Her defense to the judge was that the men around her were topless, and it's sexual discrimination to not allow her to be similarly topless if she wishes to be. The judge agreed with her. From that point on, Canadian women have had the right to be topless in public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasmuslindersson Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 "By law in Ontario Canada it IS legal for women to go topless in public. I assume thats 18 and over." <br> <br>Sylvan: Why just 18 and over? Shouldn't that apply to all, since we're not talking about photographing and posting on a website? They're walking around topless in their own free will, and people under 18 have a free will too don't they? <br> <br>Regarding the original topic here. If it's not illegal it's legal, isn't it? No authorities can (legally) stop any legal activities or even "advice", in this case the photographer, to stop what she is doing. I, just as Wigwam, get the feeling that she was more or less forced to stop shooting high school students, but I might be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigwam jones Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 The other shoe drops: Photographer served with 'Cease and Desist' Order. Seems a nearly-forgotten zoning law was remembered: http://www.10nbc.com/news.asp?template=item&story_id=21946 If the zoning law is being broken, the city has a leg to stand on in enforcing the cease and desist. Of course, all the photographer has to do to remain legal is to move outside the zoning area. Or challenge the zoning regulation in court. But as I mentioned earlier, this is the way that municpalities and counties can legally shut down things they don't like - the 'leaning on' the photographer was unnecessary and (probably) illegal. Oh well, so it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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