wolf_rainer_schmalfuss Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Over www.rolleifilm.com you will get a direct link to FREESTYLE L.A.! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Ya and I noticed the prices..... *grin* Thanks Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew in Austin Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 The Rollei 25 Pan medium format rollfilm looked interesting - but the price.... Efke 25 and Ilford Pan F will have to do for me. Best Regards - Andrew in Austin, TX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 Ilford most likely is alot better too. Wolf you have free samples to convince Us otherwise? Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christer_almqvist2 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 a blantant commercial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anton_lukoszevieze Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 why is it so expensive? fancy wooden box? foma and adox for me......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpad Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 But, just last week I ordered two boxes of 4x5 film from Freestyle: Their prices for Ilford & Foma are LOWER than B&H & Adorama... And, the shipping was less than the pesky 8-3/8 percent NYC sales tax! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpad Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 It may be a blatant commercial; but Wolf is also helping keep B&W film alive... I vote to give him some lattitude. This is NOT the 1994 version of the Internet, either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_502260 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I have read on apug that Ilford is experimenting with a 25 speed b&w film. Presumably it would have finer grain than the already good Pan F+ which has a rating of 50. The question is whether a lower speed setting has any advantages if the grain and sharpness are about the same. This was Kodak's position when TMX was on the scene and Panatomic-X was discontinued. The kind of photos you might take with a film as slow as 25 or 50 in 35mm size could also be taken with a medium format camera with film in the 100-125 speed range. In this case the results from the medium format camera and the faster film would look better. For now medium format equipment is very cheap but we have to wonder how much longer medim format film will be made. It is true that document film has extrememly fine grain and that films like TMX and ACROS are not quite as easy to use as PF4+ or Plus-X but a film like Pan F+ still has its place and I still miss Panatomic-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wieslaw1 Posted February 27, 2007 Share Posted February 27, 2007 I celebrated the last New Year in Rio de Janeiro and had an opportunity to see different and nice things. For example exotic woods always fascinated me. If those Maco-Rollei boxes are made from Angelim Rajado (family of zebra woods) I go for it. I can even throw an extra 50 bukcs if Rollei hand makes me a box from Cocobola wood. In this case I just go for the empty box, no film please. In the meantime I am awaiting an Agfa-Maco-Rollei product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakley Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 To be a little more specific, the rumor I've heard is that Ilford is experimenting with a 25-speed Delta film, which presumably (as a new-tech emulsion) would be finer-grained than Pan-F+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf_rainer_schmalfuss Posted February 28, 2007 Author Share Posted February 28, 2007 Hello Larry! How comes, that the ROLLEI films are so much cheaper in Europe, than in the USA? The ROLLEI films is offered for different target groups, in different service packs. Who informs himself NOT in the Web page: www.mahn.net, it can quite happen, that he draws hasty conclusions. Who informs himself, however, will recognize, that the film offer covers both, a wooden box, and in addition, TRAYS! These are naturally comparatively offered more inexpensive, as like FUJI and ILFORD, also as PROFESSIONAL PACKS. A price example: The AGFA APX 100, packed as ROLLEI RETRO 100, cost as Professional Pack in 30 ea. pieces of film, Euro 2.09 = USD 2.71, by a single film 135-36. As Roll film (yes, AGFA APX 100 film!)in the Professional Pack of 100 ea.films, Euro 2.70 = USD 3.51 by a single film 120. Thank you. Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_divenuti Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 Hi Jeff, It's true that Simon Galley (one of Ilford's managing directors no less) has revealed that they have done some research around an ISO 25 Delta film. I believe, however, that Ilford is only considering this for sheet film sizes. At least for now. In any case, no decision has been made yet as to whether it will be produced or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_divenuti Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I agree with Dan. At worst, if you don't like it - don't buy it. I'm convinced that collaboration between specialized retailers (Wolf's outfit, Fotoimpex, Freestyle, J&C, etc.) and manufacturers are going to be essential to keep film and paper available for more than the next several years. Sometimes I wonder why retailers even bother showing up on these forums if all we give them is verbal abuse.... They deserve our thanks even if you decide they do not deserve your cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpad Posted February 28, 2007 Share Posted February 28, 2007 I agree 100% with Al: It's not like we're talking about an H-P dealer shilling his store for digicams! Wolf, you, like Robert Vonk, can post here any time due to your support of B&W film photography. Cheers! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wieslaw1 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Now I hear that when we buy Rollei films we will get not only a precious wooden box, but also trays. How about a Christmas tree? I am thinking perspectively. The next year is just around the corner. Frankly, it is poor marketing. First of all we have Rollei famous equipment company but not a chemical one, offering a blend of someone else products (Maco) and they double charge you for this; first Rollei, then + Maco. In addition we are offered some bundles of wooden boxes and trays. C'mon be sensible! PS. Contrary to some voices above, I am not worried that the traditional photographic market will disappear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 And Just a day after the Stock Market droped. I liked the old Maco Cube in 120 that cost me 3 bucks a roll at Freestyle. What is next Retro 126 in a fuzzy box? Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf_rainer_schmalfuss Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 Hi Larry! Please take a look at the SILVERPRINT NEWS, February 2007, and than you know, what else you can do with a fancy Rollei wooden box. Cheers Wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Hi Wolf Take a look at this and see what you can do with some 2x4s and an old pair of pants... did I mention the shoes? Larry<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discpad Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 That's one hell of a "head" on the middle leg... I wonder what would happen if it was shoved into a Rollei "box?!" [i can't believe how Larry THAT one up!] ----------------------------- Q: do you wrap a hamster in gaffer's tape? A: So it won't explode when you f*** it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Dan Never underestamate Larry Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf_rainer_schmalfuss Posted March 1, 2007 Author Share Posted March 1, 2007 Hi Larry, without the lamp stand, electric outlet and chair, it would be a interesting picture! Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victor4 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 One of the reasons I have not yet tried 'Rollei' film is because of the box. If they have to give you a nice box to get you to buy the film then the film is probably not worth buying. Why pretend its a fine cigar? Nobody I know sits around 'fondling film'. What are we supposed to do with it, put it open in a display case for guests to admire? Just more junk to toss. No thanks! vic... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Wolf without them it would not be my home. Sorry I am not intersting enough to have an intersting house. LOL Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf_rainer_schmalfuss Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 ROLLEI films are sold world-wide very successfully. But not because of cheap prices. Separate, because of a quality, which differs partially totally, fundamentally, from the good films. The largest users of ROLLEI films, are natural scientific research academies, material test offices, universities, academies, and the fastidious photographer, which apart from the very good photographic result, also still wants parameters, such as excessive long durability (LE500), special back coatings, such as anti-Newton- and anti-curling-coating. He is gladly ready to pay more for a ROLLEI film. The price, is the SUM of all peculiarity! And, who is been versed with a calculation of packaging, he knows, that the price of a wooden box is only one question of the produced number. ROLLEI films are produced in such large quantities, that the price for a in Germany produced wooden box, is not substantially more expensive, as a printed paper folding box, within the same quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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