art_arkin Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 I just deved ten odd rolls of tri-x in tmax dev using a a Jobo ATL 1500, 4:10 @ 24 degrees c. I notice strange tiny crystaline spots / marks on my negs though not on the emulsion side which is clean and beautiful. These spots are only visible with light bouncing off the glossy side of the neg and are maybe 1/4 mm in diameter. They look a little like very tiny and flat ice crystals. My jobo spirals are getting fairly shiny with silver deposits, could this be the culprit ? Could it be the wetting agent? I have a fix time of 7 minutes on the Tri-x in Tmax dev 4:10 program, is this too long? I use Ilford Hypam. I know 7 minutes is significantly longer than normal and may well have something to do with the reel silvering. On a separate note, what do you recommend as a good fix time in a rotary at 24 deg c. The suggested time of 3 odd minutes isnメt enough in my Jobo. Iメve been doing 6 minutes for over a year no probs. When programming this particular run I accidentally hit the fix with an extra minute but figured this wouldnメt hurt, maybe it does ? There is a standard lab inline water filter running to the Jobo, 20 micron I think. After processing I wash the films for a further 5 to ten minutes with water coming through an even finer filter. Itメs rather cold in London right now, the wash water canメt be warmer than 5 odd deg C, could this be it? I've checked other emulsions, Neopan 1600 / 400 and 100ss deved over the last week (6min fix), these show no problem, just todayメs Tri-x Any thoughts, similar experiences or theories on what causes such marks would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Don't know, but that wash is awfully cold. Cold water doesn't wash as effectively. I'd try to keep it closer to the rest of the process. Doesn't explain the spots though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I can't imagine that an extra minute of fixing has any effect.I use a 10 micron filter but again the difference between 10 and 20 is insignificant. I note you say you are in London. At the moment there is an impending water shortage in the south-east of England and the reservoirs are low. I'm thinking that the concentration of soluble salts in the water is increased and this may be the root of the problem. Try a final rinse in distilled/deionised water to see if that clears it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_gagliardo Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Sounds like it might be static electricity marks. Can you post an example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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