peter_werner1 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Marc,<br> <i>I think the 100/2.8 Macro is in my future.</i> <br><br> The 2.8/60 is a very valid alternative, too and it is very good value for money on the used lens market. I have both and use the 60mm a lot. <br> Peter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 It's the photographer, not the gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy_mancuso Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Marc i just picked up the 100 macro and it really is killer sharp, perfect for that shoot of the jewelery. Gives you nice distance also to get lights in and such. The bonus is it is very sharp wide open also and for me a great combo with the 80 1.4 for 2 different looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_richardson Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 As far as I am concerned, the 100mm f/2.8 macro is the best lens in the R system. It is extraordinary from infitity to 1:2 (I have not tried it with the elpro). It is a lens that I think is better described as "lifelike" than sharp, because it is not simply sharp, it draws an image closer to lifelike than any other lens I have used...and I have used many. Guy, though you have called this lens "clinical" I would not share that sentiment. I don't think it is any harsher than reality is harsh. If you point it at a harsh scene, the scene will be harsh, but if the light is soft, the lens will transmit that faithfully. It is an optical tour de force as far as I am concerned. The 180mm f/2.8 elmarit exhibits some similar characteristics, but I tend to prefer the 100mm since it is a bit shorter and obviously focuses much closer...more compact and easier to handhold as well. Not as fast to focus however... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy_mancuso Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Stuart you have a point clinical maybe too strong a word too use. lifelike yes the 80 summilux is different as very sharp with lot's of falloff bokeh look. The 100mm and the 90mm have nice bokeh but different than the 80 lux which I like it gives you some options on what you like to work with given your subject But i do agree out of all of the R lenses it probably is the sharpest there is which really does make the images jump. That is saying alot because they have some excellent lenses in the R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
william_linne Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I have shot a lot with Nikon, Canon and Leica digital and film cameras. It is true that digital cameras do produce a more "plastic" look in people photos. Here is a sample from my last vacation in Florida. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 Plastic people....<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug herr Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 One of my first DMR photos, made this morning:<P><CENTER><IMG SRC="http://www.wildlightphoto.com/birds/thrushes/webl02.jpg" border="1"><BR><B>Western Bluebird</B> - Sacramento County California<BR><I>Leica R8/DMR, 560mm f/6.8 Telyt, ISO 400, cropped to 1/3 the original file size</I></CENTER><P>I won't make any claims w.r.t. the superiority of one system over another particularly since I haven't used any other dSLR and because after 48 hours of digital camera ownership I've nowhere near reached the potential of this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael s. Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 << ... won't make any claims w.r.t. the superiority of one system over another ... >> Fair enough. The new machine seems to work though. Fine shot, Doug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug herr Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Peter A, unfortunately I can't post a photo of the 560+R8+DMR because the DMR is the only digital camera I own. OTOH I suppose that with a series of large mirrors in the pasture I could do the trick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doug herr Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 The 560mm f/6.8 Telyt is a long-focus lens; most of what you see is a hollow tube.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografz Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 Welcome to DMR land Douglas. Your pic again proves it's the photographer more than the gear. So, on the Leica that lens is effectively a 767mm. That's something to think about Peter A. But a Canon 600 AF with IS may be more "effective" for those of us without Doug's extensive experience with those long Leicas ; -) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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