ed_hurst Posted December 19, 2000 Share Posted December 19, 2000 I am comparatively new to black & white, and would really value advice/opinions. I currently use Ilford Delta 400 Professional, which I develop in either Ilfotech HC (1+31) or ID-11. I then use stopbath and Hypam fixer. I need 400 ISO film, as I often use it in variable light. If the light is better, I do use the Delta 100, but I have found I usually need 400. Oh, and I use 120 rollfilm (in case it's relevant!). <p> From the little research I have done so far, it appears that there are lots of trade-offs and differences of opinion. My aim is to achieve moderate-high contrast, fine grain, sharpness and a good range of tones. Oh, and it needs to push well, by 1 or 2 stops! I know, this is a long wish-list! Any views on the best combinations of films and chemicals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_hicks Posted December 19, 2000 Share Posted December 19, 2000 > moderate-high contrast, fine grain, sharpness and a good range of tones. Oh, and it needs to push well, by 1 or 2 stops! <p> Hmm...you don't want much. <g> <p> Delta 400 does all that except push very well. There's a new version of it that's said to give more exposure/development flexibility but since we can't buy it yet it doesn't count. <p> My pick for those characteristics is Ilford HP5+. For "normal" usage I develop it in D-76H (D-76 / ID-11) 1:1 or 1:3, EI 400, and for speed I use Microphen. The "normal" speed based on shadow density and normal contrast is EI 640, which gives a "free" 2/3 stop speed increase without higher contrast. It's good to around EI 1600. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobatkins Posted December 19, 2000 Share Posted December 19, 2000 Geoffry Crawley's tests in the BJP show the new Delta 400 to be a significant improvement. Maybe 1/2 stop faster and pushes much better. The overall conclusion is that it gives HP5+ a run for it's money, unlike the current film which is slower then HP5+ and doesn't push as well. <p> I still like HP5+. I had a roll on which I'd shot 1/2 at EI 400 and 1/2 at EI 1600. I didn't have time to split the roll so I processed it in Microphen with a 1 stop push for EI 800. The negatives shot at 400 and 1600 were all quite printable and I was quite pleased with the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted December 19, 2000 Share Posted December 19, 2000 HP5+ is definitely good stuff, but don't forget that 'ol standby, Tri- X. Good in all the areas mentioned and pushes well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilhelm Posted December 19, 2000 Share Posted December 19, 2000 Ilford XP-2 Super does all the above better than any of the above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian_harkness Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 I second that Bill! <p> chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed b. Posted December 20, 2000 Share Posted December 20, 2000 No one seems to like T-max 400, but I think it is under-appreciated, particularly in 120. In PMK I get a speed of 400 out of it, and in PMK+ I can rate it at 640. I don't push it, but it is certainly feasible. I particularly like T-max 400 for low-contrast situations. In high-contrast situations it can be hard to print the full range the film records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_hurst Posted December 21, 2000 Author Share Posted December 21, 2000 When you refer to the "new version of Delta 400", are you referring to the film I use? It is described on the box as "Ilford 400 Delta Professional". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert_bedwell1 Posted December 25, 2000 Share Posted December 25, 2000 I use Delta films exclusively. Processed in Kodak Xtol at 1:3 the negatives don't seem to have a limit to the size that they can be enlarged to. Delta 3200 @ ISO 1200 developed in Xtol looks more like Delta 400. Really, a magic combination (Delta & Xtol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_hicks Posted December 25, 2000 Share Posted December 25, 2000 I don't think you can actually buy new Delta 400 yet. In promo photos I've seen of the boxes, they have a big red "new" mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_hurst Posted January 4, 2001 Author Share Posted January 4, 2001 There seems to be some lack of clarity about what is and what is not the "new version". Perhaps the marketing, launch dates and packaging are different in different countries? I live in Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_hurst Posted January 5, 2001 Author Share Posted January 5, 2001 Just managed to get hold of something I am sure is the new version (see newer thread about this film). I'll let you know how I get on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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