terry_rory Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Now, if only this bloke would publish a book! http://www.toddhido.com/todd.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlamb Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 Trevor, not only are they beautiful photographs but the book, itself, is lovely. Well done to the publishers. Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Just had to go and flick through 'Los Alamos' and 'Uncommon places' again. p 112 in Los Alamos (old Coca Cola machine and chair) and the 'Calculators' shop front (Shore) are still faves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin_smith19 Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 no problem Andrew. i would also suggest anyone interested in Eggleston take a look at the work of Luigi Ghirri. some <a href="http://www.saulgallery.com/chronicle/ghirri.html">examples</a> of his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlamb Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 Thanks, Kevin. Nice to check out that link. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I love the one with the little caravan (trailer) it reminds me of something from 'Father Ted'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlamb Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 "Now, if only this bloke would publish a book! http://www.toddhido.com/todd.html" Trevor, hummm. Like some of the sections but I must confess that I find the portraits section slightly dreary. Well, to be honest, very dreary. I feel like I've seen that 'house style' a bit too much. I'm getting grumpy in my old age..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I like the nighttime (very long exposure) shots of the houses most. Does strange things with the light. Agree about the portaits (and the motel stuff) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert x Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 love some of the Hido and some of the Ghirri - thanks for those links. This is when these forums work best I think - when we can discover new [to us] work, instead of just bitching back and forth about levels of intelligence and parenthood. Thomas - very glad to see you aren't so blase' towards printing as it seemed from your words above.... R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlamb Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 I liked what I saw of Ghirri's work but, sadly, Amazon don't to have too much to offer at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlamb Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 Thomas? Confused of Kentish Town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Thanks for plug, Andrew. I'll check out the book. Also thanks for the link to Pete Turner's pics. His "Walls of Light" collection made my day. He's a dude who needs one book with his comprehensive collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtk Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Both Andrew and Trevor are right. I was thinking of Shore when I unfairly damned Eggleston. But to put my foot deeper in it, I don't think Eggleston's color work was nearly as significant as Pete Turner's. WE's seemed very good B&W "art" photography that was, for no important reason, rendered in color. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlamb Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 Sorry, John. I've looked at Pete Turner's site and it doesn't do anything for me. To put it bluntly, it looks like 'poster art'. I find it too slick and somewhat impersonal. Obviously, it's all a matter of taste blah, blah, blah. On the other hand, I really respond to the lyricism in Leiter's work. There's real subtlety in the composition and design as well as a wonderful sense of colour. I think that 'Early Color' is one of the best photo books I've seen in years. Maybe I need to see more books, I dunno. EVERYBODY, run out and buy 'Early Color'!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlamb Posted July 4, 2006 Author Share Posted July 4, 2006 ....or stay where you are and order it off Amazon.... .......I think Zeiss is sharper........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert x Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Andrew - Sorry - Thomas was in another thread.....i was oddly enough confusing this with another thread in the "philosophy" forum, which is why i was so surprised that everyone wasn't slagging each other off at gale force 9. Sorry...... I too checked the Pete Turner pages and did not really like what I found at all. R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris c hann Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 Not only was Eggleston's early color work not "large format" it was on-topically taken with a Leica and Kodachrome. As we're now recommending books, a few years back MoMA reissued a beautiful reprint of Guide; around the same time Thames and Hudson issued a nice retrospective (beginning with early b/w and coming right up to the present) in conjunction with Fondation Carter. It's entirely fitting that someone who doesn't rate Eggleston and Shore but likes the commercial triviality of Pete Turner should try and derail the thread with a dull diversion into the history of color processing (ably abetted by Al, who never seems to want to draw attention to work other than his own). In terms of current color, Mitch Epstein's (www.mitchepstein.net) looking as good as ever, and Alec Soth's (www.alecsoth.com) work is beautiful. Even Andrew and Trevor shouldn't be feeling too downbeat as their brit cohorts Paul Graham and Richard Billingham are punching well above their weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted July 4, 2006 Share Posted July 4, 2006 I have enjoyed Billingham since... "Ray's a laugh" Unfortunately the book was a cheaply made one that has seperated at the spine so I need to order another one. Billingham did "Ray's a laugh" with a cheap no-name plastic film P&S and had the (free) film developed via a chemist on his local estate. (The life depicted in the book really was his life and there was not any money for Leicas!) He did the work for a college course not for the world art market and that keeps it real. I know he uses large format nowadays and I enjoyed his appearance on one of BBC4's 'Digital Picture Of Britain' episodes... http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/features/digital-picture-britain.shtml Example... http://www.bbc.co.uk/arts/apictureofbritain/inspiration/region/eng_mid/leaf_apob_01.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris c hann Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Trevor, Billingham is frighteningly talented. If you haven't already, try to see his video "Fishtank" - same subject matter (his family) as Ray's a Laugh and possibly even more moving. He was the surprize hit of the Sensation show in London and NY, effortlessly upstaging the work of his superficially more radical Britart contemporaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Boris what do you think about his more recent stuff like the large format landscapes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aizan_sasayama Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 my copy of ray's a laugh also came apart at the spine. i resewed it reglued the cover. i knew those bookbinding classes would come in handy someday. has anybody seen 'black country'? i've been meaning to check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Watching little version of video now... http://www.vdb.org/smackn.acgi$tapedetail?FISHTANK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris c hann Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Trevor, I like the landscapes. I like everything I've seen by him. He has a real purity of vision, there's nothing remotely contrived about his work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry_rory Posted July 5, 2006 Share Posted July 5, 2006 Some here... http://www.artnet.com/artist/2488/richard-billingham.html Same thing going on with the light in the 'Black country' photos as in Todd Hido's night-time long exposures. I wish an exhibition of Billingham's work would come to London some time soon. With a decent book to accompany it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewlamb Posted July 5, 2006 Author Share Posted July 5, 2006 Trevor, if you liked 'Ray's a laugh' then maybe you might want to look up an old copy of Don McCullin's 'Homecoming'. It's about 30 years old and is an astonishing 'state of the nation' book. I know McCullin is celebrated for his war photography but I honestly think that this is even better. Genuinely powerful stuff. Boris, thank you for those kind crumbs of comfort about the state of British photography. Things haven't been the same since Rankin took up pantomine and Nick Waplington disappeared somewhere I'd rather not dwell on . While you're at it, please airlift more nylons and candy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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