tlr Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I am interested in this film because the cost is low in comparison with others. I like to know how is the grain in 35mm compared with other makers. What time for this film in HC-110 dilution H?Thanks, Tomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 APX 400 is the grainiest 400 speed film I've used, and the slowest. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_barton Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I just started to reload b&w again after many years I picked it also for it's low price. I have been shooting it at 200/250 and using 11.5 min at 68 deg with HC-110 dil H I may go to 12 min. You just have to play with it and see how it works for your camera meter.... Any yes it's very grainy but I like the "rough" look for awhile anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ_butner___portland__or Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Tomas It's very grainy, considering its speed. Have you tried Fuji's Neopan 400? Wonderful tonality and fine grained. Russ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_divenuti Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I have to agree with Russ and Jay. Worse, still, I've found that it isn't possible to build adequate contrast in certain developers (Rodinal 1:50 and PC-TEA 1:50) - even with extended development times. I've tested PC-TEA for up to 17.5 minutes at 70 degrees and contrast is still lacking. The film's contrast is ok in DD-X and FG7, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean_williams Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 I find it somewhat grainy, but nothing objectionable for full frame 8x prints. In PC-TEA it's quite good, but I like it in D76 1+1 best. Following is from an FE2 and 1.8 E lens with the film rated at 400 in window light.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_divenuti Posted May 15, 2005 Share Posted May 15, 2005 Dean - what time, temp, and dilution are you using for APX 400 and PC-TEA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean_williams Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Al; The only dilution I've ever used for PC-TEA is 1+50, and always at 68f. This shot of Kari was rated at 400 and devved for 12 min. This was printed a gd 2 1/2.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dean_williams Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 Well, the Kari shot looks somewhat different than the print. The next shot of cereal bowls was with APX, again rated at 400. Devved 11 min in PCTEA, and printed at gd 2.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartMoxham Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I have not found it to be that grainy and I don't really like grain. It is not as fine grained as TriX but it is still a good film. I have been developing it HC110 and got the time down to around 6min in DilB at 20degC. It does not have the shadow detail of TriX at 400 so I set my ISO dial a 250 knowing that I can use 400 if I really need to. On the whole I like the film very much and it was a lot easier to find than TriX here in Finland and cheaper too. The only thing that worries me about APX400 is how long Agfa will continue to produce it but that is really true of most B&W materials. I have uploaded an image from APX400 but online images are not the best way to judge.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawz Posted May 16, 2005 Share Posted May 16, 2005 I shoot a lot of APX400, due to it's incredibly low cost. I find the grain to be comparable to HP5+. I'm a huge fan of this emulsion. I develop for 9 minutes at 22C in Ilfosol S. Agitation is 3 times every 30 secs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlr Posted May 16, 2005 Author Share Posted May 16, 2005 Thanks to all. I'll try it with a couple of rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spider_. Posted May 17, 2005 Share Posted May 17, 2005 As Jay notes, APX-400 is grainy and slow. It does have somewhat of a different look to it, but I am not sure how to describe it. I think it has potential if you are willing to experiment with it in different developers. You might want to minimize agitation with this flim. Here it is in HC110. Leica M4, 35 Summilux.<img src="http://fototime.com/{D6FA21FF-E122-4A2C-A266-F3F9D4DB7AFE}/picture.JPG"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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