john_papandreou Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 What's Going on ? All the camera Shops here in Adelaide Australia have NO T-Max 400 120 in Stock I will be in New York Next Week I checked the B&H Site All T-Max 400 and 100 in 120 OUT OF STOCK Is This a World wide thing or just something to anoy me....... Johnkpap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark f Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Strangely, I looked at Adorama for 120 Tri-X and they were out of stock on that also. Hopefully. this is just a production glitch or, even better, a surge in demand. I ended up with Delta 400...good film, but not my beloved Tri-X. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank.schifano Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 There is absolutely NO word about Kodak ceasing production of these films. In the past, Kodak has always stated that a particular film is discontinued in their technical documentation. There is no such notice now. I'm guessing that for the moment, demand has exceeded supply. I can only speculate on the market forces that have converged to cause this situation, so I'll remain silent on that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_shanesy Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 JandC is out of TMY 120 as well. This could be bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_shanesy Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 The don't have any TMY 8x10 sheet film either. This could be VERY bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_appleyard Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Yersteday I ordered a bulk roll of Tri-X from Ultrafineonline. There was a not next to the page on Tri-X that said there was a severe shortage in the US. Apparently, it is not confined to iether the US or to Tri-X. After al the layoffs, maybe there aren't enough people left at Kodak to make anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike_barger Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Just Friday I got a order of 40 rolls of tri-x 120 from my local camera store. They had to order it as they no longer stock on the shelf any 120 B&W. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_de_fehr Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Freestyle has both 120 TMY and TX in stock, but TMY Pro Packs are out of stock and due in Sept. 25. They also have 8x10 TMY in stock. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philip_oxenstein Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 I just checked out B&H on-line. Tri-X 35 mm is out of stock or back-ordered. In 120 TMX, TMY and Tri-X 400 is out of stock or back ordered. 220 Tri-X 320 is in stock. Kodak sheet film is mostly in stock. It is a bit odd that this sudden shortage is across two formats. Also odd that B&H has plenty of Agfa still kicking around and no announcement from Kodak. It would seem sensible there would be warehoused product kicking around for at least a few month after a announcement about discontinuing B&W film. Thinking optimistically, perhaps it is a recall of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_julian Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Yikes, I'm in Japan and I'm going to go pick up some Tri-X 35mm and 120, just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank.schifano Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 I just looked at Kodak's Press releases. There is no mention of the company discontinuing ANY of their B&W films. Anecdotally, I've been hearing stories from a number of people, including students, having a renewed interest in traditional B&W photography. I could be simply that demand is up because of the new school year and supply is down because manufacturers have been dropping capacity. DON'T PANIC people. Let's not get another "film is dead" rumor going. These things have a way of feeding on themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rothelle Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 All the local camera shop in my area has a shit load of Kodak films. This has happen many times before. You'll know when Kodak folds and it's not going to fold any time soon. That is why I buy 5 bricks at a time. Even then I think that is to little to have as stock. Now you can play with some HP5+ & Delta 400 until the stcok is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 In my area (Fort Worth, Texas) there's a demand every school semester for 35mm TMY in bulk and individual rolls. It seems to have surpassed or at least equalled Tri-X and HP5+ in popularity. I don't know whether this affects 120. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 The Local college here added 2 extra Photo classes this semester because demand for conventional B&W photography was up. It seeems that alot of Students got started on the Elctronic Photo classes and now want to learn more. My daughter borrowed one of my 35mm cameras to take the class. and they are using both HP5+ and Tri-X to start with. Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terence_spross1 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 One thing I've noticed is that more stores in my area (Rochester, NY) are carrying more B&W compared to two years ago. Two local colleges have more B&W stuff on their shelves as well as drug store chains. Target seems to be stocking only BW400CN, Walmart primarily has that but also Tri-X in some stores but sells a lot more BW400CN than they used to. A couple of drug stores and grocery stores I've been in recently have Tri-X, T-Max and Plus-X and one kid who was restocking the shelves at the grocery store said he had refilled the B&W racks three times so far this month and said that when he started he was lucky to have to restock once every other month and the manager had talked about dis-continuing it. So the demand is up for B&W, at least in 35mm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_502260 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I have thought for some time that when things got bad enough at Kodak they would stop announcing that certain products were being discontinued and just let their customers figure it out. I'm not saying that this is what is happening now with black & white film but it is likely that something like this will happen in the not too distant future. I read earlier this year that Kodak has one plant which makes film emulsions and that this plant would close soon. That would mean the end of all Kodak film and paper. Then about two weeks ago I read that Kodak was about to discontinue black & white photo chemicals. Where the customer is concerned, things are not moving in a good direction at Kodak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan_w. Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 "I read earlier this year that Kodak has one plant which makes film emulsions and that this plant would close soon. That would mean the end of all Kodak film and paper. Then about two weeks ago I read that Kodak was about to discontinue black & white photo chemicals." When Kodak discontinued Tech Pan, which was then used by only small groups of hobbyists and for some niche scientific applications, they gave something like one year's advance warning (IIRC). Do you think Kodak would drop its core business with no notice? I also don't think Kodak necessarily has the B&W hobbyist's best interests at heart, but I find the rumours you posted very hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_harrigan Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 I don't think BH is a good place to judge, as far as I know they are NOT an authorized Kodak retailer. I assume this is the reason they run out first while others may still have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_shanesy Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 The abseence of an announcement means absolutely nothing when it comes to this company. When Kodak film is finally discontinued it will probably be announced after the final production run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowell_huff1 Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 We are producing Black and White processing chemicals as fast as we can! We are not leaving this very profitable market. You may want to contact us for replacement chemicals instead of wasting energy worrying about who will be supplying chemistry in this market in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Kahn Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 B&H says they expect delivery of 120 TMax 100/400 in 1-2 weeks..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_papandreou Posted September 18, 2006 Author Share Posted September 18, 2006 Thanks Everyone for your answers, I will be in New York on Next Tuesday and Hopefully B&H will have T-Max in Stock So I can buy a few pro packs. I like Using TMX and TMY in 120 I tend to get the best overall results. Otherwise I will have to use Delta or HP5, at least we Still have film options for the moment. Johnkpap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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