joshua_dollins Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Annually what do photographers make (you personally, or photographers as a whole) it seems difficult to find stats for this compared to stats for other professions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philg Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 It isn't a profession since there is no way to exclude new people from entering the field (true "professions" include medicine, law, river boat pilots, etc.). Consequently, the average earnings are negligible. In the average town, only the wedding photographers are making a decent living. In bigger cities, some newspaper photojournalists can earn $50,000 per year after paying their dues. It would be hard to think of a career that pays less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua_dollins Posted September 17, 2006 Author Share Posted September 17, 2006 Yeah I've heard wedding photographers have one of the most overpaid jobs making about 2500-5000 in some cases for a days work. Of course you'd need to do quite a few weddings to do well. I ask because I have been approached by the local newspaper (idahostatesman) about a job after entering some work for a contest they ran. At first they thought I'd submitted the photos for a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remco-jan.woldhuis Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 In the Netherlands the average income for a professional photographer is about 18.000 Euro/year.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_van_lommel Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 It's sad to say but since the digital revolution there will less money be made by the average 'professional' photographers ... and the internet isn't helping much either. And now in Belgium the government isn't helping either because they are scrapping the trade from the list as a protected profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jochen_S Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 I know several no-more photographers. Their income had prevented starvation, but as a employed photographer you'll earn no fortunes in Germany. There are by far too many idealists, ready to proof their abilty to live on prayers, willing to challenge you. When I was applying for a apprenticeship in 1989, I already read stats about a 75% drop out rate of apprentice ship survivors with journeymen diplomas into other professions. During my neglectable sidejob career I was payed a little bit more than a unskilled worker but that company depended on my knowledge and parts of my gear were involved too. Here in German cities there are huge crowds of wannabe PJs so those few having such a job are payed not too well. Especially starving out newcomers seems a common policy. If you are really good you might get along, but you'll need a bunch of luck and modesty too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Ibelieve the average income for a professional photographer in the USA is somewhere around $25,000. That's not gross billings, but what the photographer pays himself or claims as taxable income and of course that is before federal and possibly state income taxes. The Bureau of Labor and Statistics ha these numbers. You can call PPA on Monday (404) 522-8600 and someone ther will have more exact numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel d Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 Google is your friend. Try the US Bureau of Larbor Statistics. Photographers is here: http://www.bls.gov/oes/2004/may/oes274021.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted September 17, 2006 Share Posted September 17, 2006 <I>Yeah I've heard wedding photographers have one of the most overpaid jobs making about 2500-5000 in some cases for a days work</I><P>That may be what they might gross for a day of weddign shooting but it doesn't take into account: cost of tools and materials, transportaion costs, rent, utilities, insurance policies (if yo uare smart -- and it is unlikely that f yo uare charging those kind of rates you aren't smart -- you have health and professional insurance plans) , salaries for staff, marketing costs, taxes, sales and client meeting times or processing time. All of those are going to vary from assignment to assignment and from photographer to photographer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ransomsix Posted September 18, 2006 Share Posted September 18, 2006 To add to what Ellis said: A wedding is never one days work. There are pre-wedding meetings, post production, post-wedding image consultations, album prep, etc. Even if you're paying an assistant to do that work, it's still got to be paid for. A wedding is several days work in most cases. Especially to do it well. People think it's easy money... not necessarilly. Also, most geographic areas have wedding "seasons" so you aren't necessarily shooting 52 weekends a year at those rates. What a photographer makes, wedding or otherwise, is going to depend on the market, and the industry. Like any other field, incomes are all over the board. Do good work, and work hard and it will hopefully fall into place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrick_morin___fallon__ne Posted September 19, 2006 Share Posted September 19, 2006 Thank you for setting the record straight! I am evolving from part time to full time wedding photographer and it is unsettling to hear from those who see this as easy money, or only one days work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qtluong Posted September 23, 2006 Share Posted September 23, 2006 Professional photography is what I'd called a "professionalized hobby", as are sports, music, writing, and the arts in general. Like in those fields, there is a very wide disparity of incomes, with the vast majority at the low end and some (<a href = "http://www.terragalleria.com/">like me</a>) doing not too bad. Here are some <a href = "http://www.pickphoto.com/articles/2005IncomeSurveyResults.asp"> brighter looking numbers</a>. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonmichael Posted September 25, 2006 Share Posted September 25, 2006 I don't know what kind of photography the question is aimed at. But agree, that the incomes varry. I do know a photographer who has millions of dollars. He traveled the U.S. selling his fine art photography in art shows and galleries. His work is also being sold as posters. So there is hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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