Brad_ Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Like the Energizer bunny, you're still going... I just wanted to go out and shoot - like what I'm doing with Sheldon this Sunday. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 6. Although "Q" indignantly demands a response to his question, "Q" will never answer the other person's question to him. Good shooting, Brad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Similar to shooting I've done with Ray, Tony, Tom, Chris, Grant, and Jeff. I thought it was worth a try... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
douglas k. Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Can't you two crazy kids see that you're <i>in love</i>? Now kiss and make up, already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Ah, he's just playing hard to get! www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travis1 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 I think it was great of Brad to offer to meet up. Dennis, you should take the offer. Like an old Chinese saying goes :" You don't get to know each other until you fought with each other"..to that effect. Forget Q. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_swinehart Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 "why is it always "digital vs. film" or "Leica vs. SLR" or "Leica vs. Voigtlander and so on?" Most people want to make it a contest with an outright winner and not a choice of the best tool for the job. This gives the person a chance to vindicate their own personal opinions and equipment choices. I'm with you, there is no versus, only the best tool for the job. The simplest explanation? They've forgotten the use of the word "or." Although, versus does mean "in contrast to," so in that light if you are contrasting a choice (one or the other), I suppose it is correct usage. Also, lot of people need reassurance that the choice they are about to make is right, and if they get positive feedback it gives them the confidence to make the decision. I just don't subscribe to the idea that there is one definitive choice that is unequivocally "the best." Best is a personal choice, and, for me, is predicated on the working conditions and what end result I need to achieve. So I could say Holga vs Hasselblad, and without an explanation of what I was shooting and the intended end result - either choice could be the best choice. With a given explanation, a clear "winner" (best equipment choice) for the situation would emerge, only to be superceded for the next imaging situation and "best" choice for that. Lastly, some people just like to argue, and the "vs" gives them a chance to turn the discussion into a flame war and/or prove how technically savvy they are about things photographic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Travis: This is all very silly... It is a fact that a few people have been making things unpleasant around here for everyone. I've read too many posts here and talked by e-mail about it with too many people to pretend that it doesn't exist. There are a number of people here who want all the snide, negative stuff that causes ill-feelings and start wars to stop. I'd be happy to have a beer with anyone who's not starting trouble. Read my remarks above... I'd be delighted to discuss this privately with Brad or anyone else who wants to. Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Travis (our forum's Koffee), thank you for the gesture of trying to move this forward. I think Dennis might be struggling with the need to come out the "winner" and be in control. I put out a good-faith gesture with zero conditions (not asking him to agree to or say anything). He comes back with a list of conditions, including renouncing my friends, which of course I won't do, and a bunch more nasty stuff that is even still continuing. I tried my best, hoping Dennis would rise to the occasion. Anyone else in New Orleans the week of 3-15? My hotel is in the French Quarter and I love to shoot - and can even talk about gear. It's a great place! www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Yikes, that should be Kofe... www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Brad, just give it up... and tell your friends to behave themselves. Okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Dennis, respectfully, I don't tell my friends, or other people, what to do. Maybe you should tell them? www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Dennis, one more time (no words or other conditions), let's get together and shoot. Seriously. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Rowlett Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 I'll bet that if you two go shooting together you will be friendlier with each other here, on line. I think it's a great idea. Dennis, go for it. I respect you both. Backups? We don’t need no stinking ba #.’ _ , J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill_marshall1 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 "This vs that" arguments unfortunately are based on the assumption that one is better than the other. It would be much more productive to look at each one on its own merits & to understand its characteristics, its capabilities, & its limitations. Even when one is better than the other, the question becomes better for what, & under what conditions, & at what price. Isn't it odd that these kinds of conversations can take place within the Leica line, i.e. comparing old & new lenses & bodies, while appreciating each for what it is & how it's different & without condemning one vs another. Why can't this be done outside the Leica line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Brad, lemme know when you're in town we'll go have a beer. I can hardly wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Dennis, let me know when this will happen. I'll let you borrow one of those special edition Aleksander Nevsky 750th Aniversary of The Battle of Novgorod M6 bodies I bought at that estate auction last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis_couvillion Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Believe it or not, Al, but I used to have one. I never used it... just fondled. I got strapped for cash one time and sold it. Wish I still had it. The engraving is very unusual, don't you think? Gotta run... Dennis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Dennis Q-villion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Hey, cheer up Dennis, Brad. First of all it was Travis, Grant ripping each others bollocks off. Then Jeff( old jiffras to his mates), and Al ripping each others bollocks off. Now we have Dennis and Brad ripping each others bollocks off. The weird thing about it all is that they are all me mates. Jeez, i must be cursed or something. Must admit it is fun, all that banter. Hey, take some photos, have a beer. That's what it's all about. Anyway, Z, told his doctor he had stopped wetting himself; now look what you have both done.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Better. Hey, i've got a new job....I'm in charge of that big red button along with my mate bushy. So there, you sad lot better watch out in case i turn you into snow flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 The Better.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 why is it always...and why not...photography is about real life and real people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Herbert Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Hey, you sheep shagger. You are the tart on the left with the makeup. Hey, the welsh do it better, sheep shagging. Bit of worry the Aussies when they call their sheep Sheila's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_kaplan1 Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Exactly, Pete! Now that sounds like REAL LIFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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