rich815 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Ok, I am now thoroughly confused. In posts lately about Kodak 400UC (Ultra Color) there are statements that at first seem to not make sense but then the people who have made them are confirming them.<p> The first is someone who says he bought Kodak 400 Ultra Color B&W. That's right, <i>Ultra Color Black & White</i>. See here:<p> <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg? msg_id=009qVL">http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg? msg_id=009qVL</a> <p> The next is someone who says she bought Kodak 400UC and Kodak 400UC Professional. And that they were packaged together, as in a three pack of the non-pro version with an extra bonus pro roll added-on in some kind of promotional pack. See that one here: <p> <a href="http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg? msg_id=009rLt">http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg? msg_id=009rLt</a><p> According to what I have bought from my local pro shop, B&H and my local Target, and from looking at Kodak's website and from what I have been reading in the forums here, all I can see is that Kodak Portra 400UC was changed to Kodak 400UC (Ultra Color) and that they are one and the same only different new name and packaging. <p> Yet, now people are saying there's a Kodak 400 Ultra Color <i>black & white</I> and two versions of 400UC, a pro version and version not marked pro. <p> What's up here!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_shop Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Kodak is a farce. Now I'm off to shoot some color black and white pictures to see if I can invent a new medium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_olander1664878205 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 There is only one Kodak 400UC (Ultra Color). There used to be Portra B&W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 The only thing that's up is confused consumers. Nothing new. There obviously is no product called "Ultra Color B&W" That would be silly even by Kodak standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich815 Posted October 22, 2004 Author Share Posted October 22, 2004 Alan, Rob, I agree with you. But what you say is being challenged by other's statements. I asked these people to make sure what they are saying is right. They replied in reinforcement of what they said. So, according to one there is an Ultra Color B&W, he said the label says exactly that. The other says that there is TWO versions of 400 UC films. One profressional, another that does not designate professional---and that they were packaged together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_eaton Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I'm not saying it exists, but 'Ultra Color B/W' is not as much an oxymoron as it seems. The C-41 chromogenics are essentially color neg films anyways with a monochrome dye-set. Given the mentality of many photographers who continually display the trait of taking anything written on the box of film in a grocery store as being literal, I wouldn't laugh to much at such a marketing move. When you consider Kodak uses words like 'Bright Sun' on the box, they should add small text underneath that also says "now breath" for those who consider 'Bright Sun' a point of technical note. Considering my debates with amatuer film shooters who angrily pronunce their stance on being apethetic towards better emulsions, I'm not laughing at this. I'm not sure what the packaging deal is with UC Pro vs sans Pro, but considering all the people who won't buy the pro film because "well, I'm not a professional".........you kinda get my drift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walter_degroot Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 our local wal-mart ( our main source out here) was selling a 4 pack of 3 color print and one chromogenic B&W roll in a single package. could this be the source? like the party game "whisper" sending a message around the circle to see how it gets changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NullMcNullkins Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 The black and white film is probably BW400 CN, the replacement for Portra 400BW and T400 CN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowland_mowrey Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 Guys; I have asked the person who made the post about UC B&W to read off the edge markings and post that for us. That might help further identify the film. If someone out there has actually gotten such a film please post the Kodak edge marking information for all of us. I suspect that we will find out that it is either mis-identifed by the user, or misprocessed by the lab. If we cannot identify it from the edge markings, then I can call a friend at EK and get the latest informaton to clarify matters. Lets wait and see. Ron Mowrey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooper8168 Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I am looking at a box of WM-bought 400UC. It's sitting next to a box of B&H-bought 400UC. They are identical, aside from the rack tab on the WM box. Sitting next to them is a box of BW400CN, which looks strikingly similar to the boxes of 400UC. In fact, a quick glance might make someone think they were seeing "BW400UC" instead of "BW400CN". I'm sure it's just a case of mistaken identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
__stu_evans Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 What a mess. Those clowns couldn't merchandise a cure for cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven_clark Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I think the confusion stems, as people have said, from the Portra 400 BW and from the recent switch from calling it Portra 400UC to Ultra Color 400UC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denise_duhamel Posted October 22, 2004 Share Posted October 22, 2004 I picked up a pkg of the Pro 400UC and scanned a roll. Sorry I don't have a digital camera, so I had to hold the roll on the scanner glass.<div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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