serkan_taycan Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 hi , i am interested in backstage of porn industry for a documentry project. do you know any sample works that done before?.. i found Paolo Pellegrin's "the garden of eden , inside the porn industry" in the internet. but i couldn't see all of the exhibition. and Sylvia Plachy's "red light" also. where can see them? thank you. serkan taycan. istanbul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 David Strick has done work in this vein as well and there is Susan Meiselas' bokk on Carny Strippers, which yhas recently been reprinted and you can find through Amazon. Most of the modern "porn" business is centered in the Los Angeles area., but thre are topless bars in virtually all medium and l large cities. My advice is to not really look too much at work on the same subject that others have done, but to look at the classic documentary work done by people like Bruce Davidson (1ooth Street, Subway) or work by Steve McCurry on S.E. Asia or at Jodi Cobb's book "Geisha". is there a large sex industry in Istanbul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellis_vener_photography Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I forgot to mention Mary Ellen Mark's book "Falkland Road" which centers on the lives iof prostitutes in India, I think Falkland Road is the red light district in New Dehli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_atherton9 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Yes, Donna Ferrato's new book to some extent. I think Larry Sultan has just doen one specificially on that? http://www.photoeye.com/templates/mShowDetailsbycat.cfm?Catalog=PK959 And there have been at least a couple of other books by photogorpahers over the last couple of years very specifically about this http://www.photoeye.com/templates/mShowDetailsbycat.cfm?Catalog=PY027 http://www.photoeye.com/templates/mShowDetailsbycat.cfm?Catalog=ZB514 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
preston_merchant Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Falkland Road is in Mumbai. Check out the work of Lauren Greenfield. "Girl Culture" has some shots of strippers backstage, along with much else. Her documentary work is superb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abargrill Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Joyce Baronio put out a book of photos of the women who worked around Times Square in NYC when it was a center of adult entertainment. The book came out 20+ years ago. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedevermac.com Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 There's a piece on the internet porn industry that Jim Lo Scalzo did for US News and World Report on www.auroraphtos.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas_griego Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I take this post on face value that your sincere in your interest in doing acutal documentary work on the porn industry... but... If I had a buck for every photographer/journo in Asia that I've run across who wanted to do a documentary/story/feature on prostitution, girly bars or the sex trade here in Asia and then ended up spending all their time and quite a bit of cash time doing 'research' and really just ended up becoming another customer. I wouldn't be working as a photographer. I'd be rich several times over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_gatehouse Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Not sure about the porn industry in Turkey, but the fascinating thing about it in the US is that is the most wonderful the American way - with the US as both the biggest consumer and the biggest producer of porn worldwide, it is pure capitalism at work The Big Mac becomes the Big Cock - and it makes a fascinating documentary study (talking of partaking - I enjoy the stories about how Ferrato and her assistants had to become part of the swingers scene for the work - BTW - there is also an excellent film documentary about swingers in the US - called just that I think? - one very telling section was filmed in Columbine shortly before the school shooting. Turns out - probably like most places - Columbine really was not exactly a quiet, white picket fences, Truman Show suburb after all - there was a lot more going on behind closed doors than most would admit to - which again, makes for fascinating documentaries...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
________1 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 I think there may be a recent book on the Japanese sex industry...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_elder1 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 Why do it? Or in other words, what is your intent in producing this work? Do you have a point of view already established? Do you already know whether your work will be positve or negative about the porn industry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boris_chan1 Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 ".......i am interested in backstage of porn industry.........do you know any sample works......." Try googling Stefano de Luigi for the latest (utterly un-)"concerned" reportage of the porn industry. The story's been done over and over again, but I've never seen it done with any wit or compassion. Having said that, a number of photographers have addressed the issues of sex and desire with success. The primary reason that the story keeps being covered is that sex sells, it's that simple. I have to echo the comments of Lucas regarding coverage of the sex industry in Asia. There are so many stories and issues to be covered in the region, but you could be forgiven for imagining that Asia is just one big freak show of prostitution and kick-boxing. A significant number of expat photographers in the region long ago crossed the line between documentarists and punters in the sex industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spearhead Posted June 29, 2004 Share Posted June 29, 2004 There seems to be a lot of confusion here. The "porn industry" does not mean "strippers" or "prostitutes." Larry Sultan's book is excellent (as the show probably is, but I haven't seen that), but it's not be glamorous or seedy. Very different than what you would expect. If you want to see interesting work on Asian sex workers, check out Reagan Louie. Music and Portraits Blog: Life in Portugal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas_griego Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 While 'strippers' and 'prostitutes' aren't a direct translation of 'porn industry' in many cases they are part and parcel with it. And for much of the porn that is produced in Asia they <i>are</i> the porn industry. For much of the W.Euro porn - the girls come out of E. Euro countries - from hard lives onto harder lives. For the states it's primarily coming out the San Fernando valley. <p> What is laughable is that it seems there is <i>always</i> someone who has the idea they want to get into the porn industry. They usually see it as a ticket to free shagging - their mind is focussed on the 'content provider' side of the biz. But in reality it's all about distribution - just like music or anything else - you can make the best 'Teen Debutantes in Heat' but if you don't have distribution you got nothin'. The web has changed the industry quite a bit - now 'distribution' is somewhat easier - hence the proliferation of niche market sites. <p> A while back at Photosig.com there was one guy who did do a series of portraits in Thailand of working girls. They were all done b/w shot with a Leica. There was a very interesting book in the last couple of years called <i>Hello My Big Big Honey</i> that offered some insight into the sex industry in Asia. Worth a read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_milner2 Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Pornoland, recently published -- pictures by Stefano de Luigi and words by Martin Amis the English novelist. UK edition details Hardcover 112 pages (May 24, 2004) Publisher: Thames and Hudson ISBN: 0500542880 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattalofs Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 Maybe take Ellis' advice another direction; why not approach it from the perspective of movie still photographer? Anybody know any good work in that genre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
._._z Posted June 30, 2004 Share Posted June 30, 2004 <u><A href = http://zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/mexsex/>http://zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/mexsex/</a></u> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markskelly Posted July 2, 2004 Share Posted July 2, 2004 There was a very good article on some of the American porn industry in Rolling Stone about 7 or 8 years ago (...I think). There were some really great photos in it. Porn stars in bathrobes, smoking cigarettes, etc. It was all shot in BW, and looked really good. Maybe you could search for it on their site. I don't know how they archive previous issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkantor Posted July 4, 2004 Share Posted July 4, 2004 Most documentaries/reportage about the adult industries just serve to marginalize the participants while providing their own vicarious thrills. The reality show on Showtime "Family Business" does the best job of demystifying the industry. But what needs to be done is a documentary on the porn consumers (i.e., all of us). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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