dana_jill Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 <p>I've seen pictures where kids blue eyes have so much depth and tone... then others (like mine) where there tends to be alot of reflection and spots. What is the best way to shoot close ups and portraits of kids with blue eyes in order to get the lightness of their eyes to really pop?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 <p>Might be useful to post an example, Dana.</p> <p>The attachment was made with fill flash which might have had more depth under natural light. I'm not sure there are special tricks other than decent lighting; of course Photoshop can do wonders.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick_f Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 <p>It sounds like you might be interested in the cross processed look? I think that might be what you are thinking of.... Can do it on flim but dont know how in PS...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dana_jill Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 <p>Michael, in Photoshop, what works best for this? I have not played around with eyes too much but I sure would like to know if you have any suggestions...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelChang Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 <p>Gosh, Dana, there are infinite ways depending on ones objective. </p> <p>I usually go about it first by isolating the eyes with the selection tool, then it's mostly a matter of Contrast and Color tweaks for the desired effect. If you want a little more control, Copy the selection and make it a new Layer. This will give you better control in later (opacity) Blending with the original.</p> <p>You can go to extremes such as the manipulation below as compared with the original:<br> <a href="../photo/8035554">http://www.photo.net/photo/8035554</a><br> <a href="../photo/3381435">http://www.photo.net/photo/3381435</a></p> <p>A number of video tutorials can also be viewed on YouTube:<br> <a href="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=photoshop+eyes&search_type=&aq=f">http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=photoshop+eyes&search_type=&aq=f</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_momary Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 <p>Well, I stink at portraits but since my grand daughter has been around, I have a semi-cooperative 'model' who let's me play a bit (for a finite time before she wooshes off). Here's one in daylight, dappled shade, two external SB600 strobes and the D200 pop up acting as commander.<br> My best attempts have been with lots of light (read:small pupils, max. iris). In this image, I've just added a very little bit of iris pop by increasing saturation after lassoing the eye. This is along the lines of what Michael suggests. I'm a novice at people photos, so I learn more each outing. Casually, I've noticed some people have more photogenic eyes; not sure if that's valid or an assumption.</p> <p>It's an adventure to be sure.<br> Jim M.</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 <p>We once had a potential hire come for interviews, years ago. She had the most intense blue eyes that captivated a number of our more elderly male staff. We hired her, and it turned out that she was wearing blue contact lenses.</p> <p>So don't scorn the advice to Photoshop, it was done long before Photoshop even existed. Most of the time, there "ain't nothing <em>natural</em> to it."</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick_f Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 <p>Dana,<br />Lighting might also be a factor...I have a funny feeling that if you go tweaking the photos in PS, that it will probably look a tad fake. After all, who's baby looks like a high end fashion model? You can really make eyes pop based on the lighting, amongst other things. Try getting a little closer and isolating them. You could even go to Home depot, buy a 2x3 piece of white foam core, and a 10" clip on light with some sort of diffusion for under $20...just check out the basic lighting tutorials on here and elsewhere.<br />Good luck.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 <p>Brilliant natural blue or green eyes can sometimes tolerate a bit of careful, selective tweaking to boost saturation. Conversion to JPEG often reduces the brilliance of certain colors, so done properly it just helps maintain the natural color.</p> <p>One of the great features to the underrated <a href="http://www.dl-c.com/"><strong>Picture Window Pro</strong> </a> software is the excellent tutorial showing how to selectively treat areas like eyes to maintain color fidelity.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markus_latva_aho Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 <p>It also depends on the angle of the light coming to the eyes. What I have found, is that you need certain amount of light coming "direct" in to the eyes. They will change their coloring pretty easily into anything from green to grey if left in the shadow. So you need to pay real attention to your lighting to get the eyes shine.<br> Also, it helps, that you do some tweaking in the photoshop. Normally some individual curves, saturation etc. But nothing too much, or it will start looking separete from your model.<br> Jim Momary, if I may say, you need to correct the black part of the pupil also. Now it's starting to look red. Always after the alteration, make the pupils black again, remove staturation for example.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francie_baltazar Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 <p>I do a lot of children't portraits and eyes are a unique thing - my son has the dark blue eyes and they rarely look as beautiful on film as in person - in fact on file they tend to look almost black - I will post a photo - then I have taken children with light blue eyes and they are amazing... I think it is good lighting and fill flash to help with the catch light - I am attaching a few examples - non of these have had any post processing done to them...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francie_baltazar Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 <p>okay so I goofed on the attachments - here they are - first my dark eyed son</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francie_baltazar Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 <p>now for some lighter blue eyes - all the same technique - just different eye colors</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francie_baltazar Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 <p>when you edit you can't add a photo - just trying to help here... okay let's try this again</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francie_baltazar Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 <p>and now a very cool brown one...</p><div></div> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feiner Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 <p>Some other things that make eyes stand out are colors the subject is wearing, at least in person and probably in photographs also, and then colors in the environment that are reflected in the eyes.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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