Nikon Announce Z6 II and Z7 II

Discussion in 'Nikon' started by ShunCheung, Oct 14, 2020.

  1. ShunCheung

    ShunCheung Administrator

    I am still digesting the news, but these are the prices in the US:
    • Z7 II, $3000 body only, actually down from the initial $3400 Z7 introductory price
    • Z6 II, $2000 body only, same as that for the Z6 back in 2018
    Both camera will have one XQD/CFexpress slot and one UHS-II SD slot. I kind of wish to have a dual use, SD or CFx Type A slot, but that didn't happen.

    This is their info-mercial video on YouTube:


    There is also an updated Z-mount lens roadmap through 2022. Apparently there will be a 85mm/f1.2, 400mm/f2.8 and 600mm/f4 lenses, although Nikon does not specify the maximum aperture. The implication is that a sports oriented Z body, perhaps in the same category as Sony's A9 II, is forthcoming, most likely in 2022 for the football/soccer World Cup.

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  2. ShunCheung

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  3. I keep wondering why no one includes 180, 200 and 300mm prime lenses in native lens lineups for full-frame mirrorless (and Nikon also don't include 135mm but Sony do). The jump to 400mm f/2.8 is a bit too much for me. I generally like the most primes in the short to medium telephoto range. The 70-200/2.8 is great but a little harsh to my taste. I haven't used the Z version though; it could be an improvement from what I've seen.

    Anyway, good to see Nikon launch these cameras. Burst performance improvement seems huge. I wonder how much of it is dependent on CFexpress cards.

    I will consider the Z7 II but there are already so many lenses on the roadmap, and as I suggested, many of my favorites are missing. For primes I could go with 20/35/85 (1.8) but then they stop. 135, 200, and 300, please. Yes I get the popularity of zooms, and I use them as well but I like the out-of-focus rendering and weight of prime lenses.

    I am also wondering about the WR-11b transciever. I saw images of it but not much detail. Will it be compatible with DSLRs via WR-A10? When will it be available?
     
  4. I guess their 120-300mm 2.8 VR is supposed to cover that range. and at a constant 2.8 you get not advantage unless they go to f2, which admittedly would be nice but expensive.;)
     
  5. It seems like the Z IIs are what the Zs should have been two years ago. I remember testing the Z7 at the launch event here in Sweden and immediately realising they would not be ideal for bird photography. Thus, I got the D850 with a grip and have not regret my choice. Now, though, I might have gone with the Z7 II (depending on its viewfinder and af-perfomance in the field) over the D850 but I see little reason to upgrade right now other than to use the 14-30mm f/4. Used Z6/7 will depreciate more than the D850.

    Is not that taking thinks a bit far, like the rumour sites usually do? What about slower PF lenses, perhaps a 400mm f/4 and 600mm f/5.6? I think there is a reason for Nikon not specifying the aperture of those lenses yet.
     
  6. It doesn't address my desire for lenses that are light weight for the focal length and aperture. And it seems to follow the modern trend of supersharp and -contrasty images. This current style just hurts my eyes.
     
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  7. I agree with Shun's interpretation. It seems likely the 400 and 600 are intended to compete head-to-head with Sony 400/2.8 and 600/4 and Canon IS III 400 and 600mm superteles. And to launch such lenses calls for the appropriate camera body to be released as well.
     
  8. Well, someone's got to do the development work and money has to come in from somewhere to pay for it, so manufacturers often launch slightly immature products to the market and then refine them in subsequent versions. This isn't anything new. If you look at the D1, for example, or Sony A7, or Canon R; each of these products seems crude compared to the current versions. It would have been great to have a D850 in 1999 and just buy one digital camera for use for 20 years.

    Nothing wrong with that; the D850 is a great camera. The Z cameras have other advantages such as eye-detect AF (which hopefully should work well in the second versions), no requirement for autofocus fine tuning, better LV and video AF, and somewhat better quality lenses available in some segments. The D850 and D6 do great when photographing fast telephoto action and have a broad native lens line available. Different tools for different applications.
     
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  9. Does the Z7 ii have a high res mode via the VR stabilizer or similar?
     
  10. I haven't noticed it being mentioned in the Nikon literature, so probably not. I think personally such features have serious limitations as if anything moves in the scene, there will be artifacts. I guess for product photography, multi-shot pixel-shifting modes can be useful.
     
  11. Nice refresh for both cameras, but I will probably hold out until the next iteration. Gives me longer to acquire more glass.
     
  12. So the specs are out now. What's the differences?
     
  13. Dual card slots, vertical grip option (with controls and apparently hot-swappable batteries), more shots per charge, increased maximum burst depth, improved AF and subject acquisition, shorter viewfinder lag and faster refresh, faster frame rates in video, eye and face detection in wide-area AF mode, 1 stop improvement in low-light AF sensitivity, ...

    I read on another forum that there is now the possibility to turn off the information display in the viewfinder. I will see if I can find a Nikon quote for this.
     
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  15. Thanks. Yes makes sense - but heard it may be on the new features list but could not find it mentioned. I have the Z7 but will missing this update I think. I'm almost tempted to help Nikon's sales but my money is not that abundant!
     
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  16. I have to say I'm a bit underwhelmed. The dual slot thing has never been an issue with me and the slight improvements in other areas are fairly obscure to the average shooter. Probably won't trade my Z6 anytime soon. The lens map is good but given the cost of the S lenses, new purchases will happen very slowly.
     
  17. In Europe:
    Z6 II = 2.200€
    Z7 II = 3.400€

    So, the cameras are much cheaper in the USA looking at the exchange rate (1$=0.85€) and should sell for:

    2000$ = 1.700€
    3000$ = 2.550€
     
  18. It's roughy £ for $ in the UK (after taxes)
     
  19. European countries prices include VAT which in Finland is 24%. $3000*1.24 converted to € is 3164. Price displayed by Nikon is 3499€ in my country. So there is a difference but it is not out of this world. European customers could save some money by ordering from the US. But I suspect large stores in UK, Germany or the Netherlands may have less expensive stock than Finland.
     
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  20. Yeah, EUR prices are typically quoted including VAT, and US without.
     

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