DickArnold Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 They are: A twenty year old Tenba bag that will not rip, fray or lose its shape: a twelve year old Canon 70-200 2.8L lens that despite heavy use and abuse just keeps taking pictures like the day I bought it; a set of eighteen year old Novatron 240 watt second lights that I fully intended getting rid of when I established my studio in 1996 but that kept making money for me and that I only added to and never replaced; and, a very inexpensive 15 year old Shepherd flash meter that I still balance my lights with. These have all paid for themselves more than a few times. The lens looks new. The lights are still set up and working despite my commercial use of them. The only thing I have done with them is replace one modeling light. The meter still works. In that interregnum I have had the following Canon bodies: 650, 630, Elan, A2, EOS 1n, D60, XTi, 5D. EOS 10s, etc. Not to mention all the lenses I have owned. I had also a full array of Bronicas ETRS equipment that lasted quite a while before I traded it. It is nice to know in this day of planned obsolescence that there is still stuff that lasts a long time and is highly useful over that time. My question is what do you have that it makes no sense to get rid of, even though it is old, because you can still use it effectively? Ps, I wish I had kept some of the Bronica array. Although I need to make one point clear, I can, and have, taken acceptable (and god awful) pictures with all of them and that I sincerely do not believe that equipment makes the photographer it just may make it easier (I think). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 It's people like you, Dick, that are ruining the economy. What would happen if <i>everybody</i> bought quality gear and kept using it productively until it actually wore out? Why, we'd have an entirely different national mindset, that's what. Unacceptable! <br><br> I've got a Tiltall tripod that will surely outlive me. I have a more modern carbon-fiber Manfrotto that I prefer to lug around, but that original gen-u-ine Tiltall is a favorite for spotting scopes, oddball flash mounting needs, propping up a camcorder, and so on. I think I could use it as a jack stand when changing tires on my truck, too. It has the added sentimental value of having been lovingly roughed up by my dad, back in his day. It's a tank. <br><Br> And of course, the ol' Nikkor 50/1.8 that I've been abusing since 1985. Great little lens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krisheylen Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 <i>a twelve year old Canon 70-200 2.8L lens that despite heavy use and abuse just keeps taking pictures like the day I bought it</i> <p> What? You didn't learn to make <i>better</i> pictures in those twelve years! Don't sit so much on your money, and at least spend some on a photography class, or a book. :-)) <p> My gear is no older than two years and I still only have the minimum I need. I lost most of my previous stuff in a fire. But a Canon Q-17III rangefinder survived and is waiting for me to get darkroom stuff again (if I decide to do it again, still not sure). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecahn Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Know what you mean about the Tenba. I have used the same one since 1986.. Once after a few years the zipper jammed. I brought it to the factory, which was in a Soho loft, and they fixed it on the spot. It has functioned perfectly since then. It will probably outlast me. The only thing I have which lasted longer was a Tel True thermometer which was accurate for 40 years before breaking. Am still using some Bogen light stands from 1983. Most of the plastic knobs twisted off early. The stands still work though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickArnold Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 Matt I still have a Tiltall also. I use it in the studio. I also I have Manfrotto with a ball head. I forgot about the tiltall until you mentioned it. It is heavy and very strong and hell on the fingers when its cold like here in New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonmestrom Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 "planned obsolescence" well there is an appropiate definition if ecer I saw one. I have a Yashica Mat 124G that at the time I bought it was in mint condition. I had the shutter taken apart and revised and it still works like a dream. Furthermore a Pentax LX with four primes that I bought directly from Pentax. They restored it for me in almost completely new fashion for a very very acceptable price with the shutter adjusted to specification which still is as accurate as it was then. The LX is comparable to the Nikon F3, only far better. I had a Hasselblad as well but got rid of it because a digital back proved way too expensive but those two camera's are here to stay. Both were bought in the early nineties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_bergman1 Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I bought a Lowepro bag in the 1970's. The interior has some elastic loops for holding film canisters. Over the years they lost their elasticity. I was so sad. Now that I shoot mostly digital the bag seems like new. Let's hear it for new technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lex_jenkins Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 Things I can't seem to get rid of: Bogen/Manfrotto 3001 legset. I don't even use it as a camera tripod anymore. Sometimes I use it with an adjustable Westcott arm to support a 42" reflector. Right now it's being use to support an experimental antenna for my shortwave radio. A 30 year old Sears auto thyristor flash. Mostly a souvenir of some weird adventures. Only survivor of an entire camera kit that went swimming in the Guadalupe River during a canoe trip 25 years ago. And 12 years ago it emitted a loud "pop!" and puff of smoke the first time I tried it with a set of lithium AA's. Dang thing still works. Agfa Isolette folder. Spent too much time getting it working again to let it go. And it looks good on a shelf. A fugly Olympus XA3. Don't use it often but it works. It smells bad, runs on deer ticks instead of batteries and can whup yer Lomo's butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_waller Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I have an entire house full of stuff I can't seem to get rid of. I guess somebody must have bolted it all to the floor. And the worst of it is, the pile of stuff keeps growing. I'm sure my Mamiya TLRs are mating when I'm not looking. And my fridge has been completely taken over by film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ifti Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I somehow don't want to get rid of things I just get tired of them and want gadgets with a newer bell or whistle. Oldies stay in the closet and some in the curio cabinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
conrad_hoffman Posted December 1, 2008 Share Posted December 1, 2008 I can't stand to get rid of anything, but especially my Tiltall. Hint- there's a fiber or felt ring inside the center tube at the bottom. If it gets worn, the tripod will be resonant and sharpness will suffer. If it's worn out, replace it with the right thickness of adhesive felt, so there's some definite resistance when you raise and lower the center post. The tripod will then be as rigid as the best of 'em. They also benefit from cleaning with aluminum polish and a bit of good Teflon grease at the pivot and locking points. Then you're fingers won't hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickArnold Posted December 1, 2008 Author Share Posted December 1, 2008 Matt. I plead guilty to aiding the recession by hanging on to old but useful photo gear but you should see the pile of useless photo stuff I did buy and which now resides in my cellar collecting dust. I must have twenty umbrellas. I use soft boxes. I will not confess to the number of bags in my cellar while I still use that old Tenba. I have a perfectly good Canon backpack that I never use. Look at the string of bodies I have bought. I used to love to trade stuff for stuff at now defunct camera shows. About six years ago I sadly dismembered my darkroom as a Canon i9100 stole the show. I think maybe the enlarger and trays are in a box somewhere. Not sure. I cannot admit to the number of third party lenses I bought and traded away. I now stick to Canon and don't trade those away. Tom I admit manufacturers "plan obsolescence" but so do I in buying things I don't really need. I just copied that term. I did not invent it. This hobby(most expenses were paid in my former photo business. I am more careful now.). is cheaper than a mistress who at my age wouldn't be that useful anyway. But photo detritus is my sole vice. I don't drink, smoke or chase anything but what I think might make a good picture. Conrad my tiltall will get lubricated but I won't. Good advice. Matt you are right about the strength of the thing. I paid a hundred bucks for mine in the early nineties. It is black. Did it ever come in another color? I have a couple of older printers, actually three if you come right down to it. Matt I certainly did not want you to get the impression that I did not loyally support the economy but even if you think I am truly helping ruin it I will not trade my old 70-200 2.8L. I want to be buried with it. It works better than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilkka Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 "A twenty year old Tenba bag" My 25 year old Tenba bag is still the best one I have. I have bought many other bags since then, trying in vain to find an even better one. But I still go back to that old one once in a while and it is still a joy to use. The sewing in one of the the top corners has come a bit loose now. Maybe I should send it for service. I could say the same about my 25 year old Gitzo Reporter and Linhof ball head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I have a Yashica Minister that I bought second-hand in 1971 and is still going strong. It doesn't get a lot of use but I wouldn't dream of letting go of it. As for bags, I did have a Billingham for a long time and eventually sold it for more than I paid for it. It's a very strong bag but is also heavy and fairly rigid which makes it not entirely practical in the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 "My question is what do you have that it makes no sense to get rid of, even though it is old, because you can still use it effectively" I wish I could say that about my car ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay a. frew Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 I kept a lot of stuff just because it wasn't worth selling - like my FTbN and breech-lock lenses. Now I find myself shooting the FD gear for a change of pace. A lot of digital photo equipment finds its way to my kids - not worth selling or keeping. I won't part with my EOS3. Best camera I ever had and I had to wait for the prices to drop way down before I could afford it (they were nearly $1800.00 in Canada, before tax, when new). Top of my list though, is my Sony Clie PDA (an SJ 20) which I have had since they were new (8 years? - I lost track). I can't text my "BFF" (kill me now - before It ever comes to that), it doesn't play music, no WiFi for UToob (life is good) it doesn't have a colour screen...it just works - day after day. I never imagined that a little piece of gadget crap like that (with a tiny, hard-wired battery no-less), would be so useful for so long...and I use it a lot. The corners of the Clie are worn through the paint well into the plastic (hey...modern brassing...used price just went up). Cheers! Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernie moore Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 A Leica that goes back to circa '50s. Can't even tell what model it is. Bought if for 6 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew_newton Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 Very nice to hear. I have an OM-1 that saw 20 good years of use before my Dad put it on a shelf for several years and then gave it to me when I was in college. It has since seen 4 or 5 years of good use by me and I plan on many more years of good use. I can't think of any lenses that I have that I would want to see go the way of the dodo any day soon. Though I guess my Tamron 35-70/3.5 might go up on Ebay (condition mentioned) one of these days to be replaced with another Tamron 35-70/3.5. The lens is great, but I think my copy suffered some damage before I got it as the barrel has slop where it can be pulled forward or backward easily a few MM effecting focus, so you have to very carefully focus. It takes great pictures though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarah_fox Posted December 2, 2008 Share Posted December 2, 2008 My trusty 1977(?) Gossen Luna Pro CdS. I've reworked it a couple of times and have recalibrated it to run off of silver oxide cells, rather than the mercury ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
User_4136860 Posted December 3, 2008 Share Posted December 3, 2008 I have four Canon FD SLRs all bought second hand, the oldest one an FTb was made in 1972, 38 years ago none of them have ever let me down, it makes me wonder how many of todays cameras in an age of "planned obsolescence" will be around in ten years, never mind thirty years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Laur Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 <p>Of course not, Dick! I was jesting. I also have a truly odd mix of cannot-part-with-them oddities, but also an inexcusable collection of what-was-I-thinking fleeting purchases. Oh well! It's part of the affliction, I think.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luca_stramare2 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 <p>I can join the club. I have a set made of a Nikon FM2 and a bunch of lenses, 28 mm, 35 mm, 50 mm and 135 mm (all E series) that insist on making good slides, no matter I kept using them for 20 years and traveled 30 countries. Guess the photo industry did not make good business with me...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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