christian_fox Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>All my life I have been obsessed with classification, not matter the subject matter. Classic cameras are not exception here.</p> <p>If any one is in the mood, it would be interesting to see you categories of your classic camera interests, whether or not you own these cameras. I enjoy asking individuals about their favorite representative cameras in each brand or category. I consider a classic camera as a manual focus film camera before the autofocus era, although my Nikon F4 gets tangled up with my classics.<br> Here are some categories I envision:<br> 1. Collectables (rarities).<br> 2. Chrome and glass.<br> 3. The First to Establish . . .<br> 4. Best Mechanical of each brand.<br> 5. Best Electronic of each brand.<br> 6. Favorite ergonomic body.<br> 7. Favorite lens type or brand, and camera is secondary.<br> 8. A Technology of interest. . . like long AE. </p> <p>My own preference is to find the best fully operational ergonomic camera and lens for active use with film, but I am constantly in turmoil between fully mechanical vs electronic cameras. I am also willing to explore new lenses designed for manual focus classics. </p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_the_waste Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>I have my own classification of the cameras that I own. Since I recently picked up a couple of real beauts, it might be a while before I even think of adding more, if ever. My three basic classifications go as such:<br> 1. Works (depends on the mood I'm in).<br> 2. Doesn't work but is fixable (these depend on how much free time I have).<br> 3. Doorstop (I have a few of these).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>My system is even simpler...which one am I obsessed with at the moment. Get beyond that after a couple of weeks (and research and use) and move onto the next.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_robison3 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>All my life I've been scatter brained and any "collection" of cameras I have reflects that. The very antithesis of classification. If there is any direction at it would favor 'all mechanical', with absolutely no electronic control of any function. A built in meter is OK but if it is dead the camera still must have full control of all shutter speeds and aperture.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin carron Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>I am not really interested in classification but instead look for connections and developments over time. This of course involves <em>The First to establish...</em> but then looks backwards in time for precursors and also forwards in time to where that innovation led. For example the idea of the Single Lens Reflex starting with the early press cameras such as the Graflex, through miniaturisation and increasing technological sophistication to the 35mm SLR such as the Nikon F. I am also interested in how technical developments influenced artists and photographers by presenting them with new possibilities.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two23 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>For starters, I'm only interested in cameras made before 1960, and prefer those older than WW2. I tend to put cameras into groups and have a mini collection of a couple of those. I now have a pretty nice box camera collection, a small but nice collection of pre-war folders, and two distinctly different 4x5 lens collections. One concentrates on 1910--1930, and the other concentrates on 1840--1860. I only buy things that work and look nice I get a kick out of pulling out a camera from the 1930s, having someone look it over, and ask, "is this a digital camera?" They can't imagine that (1) something looking that nice could be 80 years old (2) that someone would actually be using it!</p> <p>Kent in SD</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan_fromm2 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>Christian, from my perspectives -- I have two -- your classifications make no sense.</p> <p>They're not mutually exclusive and exhaustive, so won't serve for sorting neatly into piles. And they don't reflect, um, phylogeny.</p> <p>They're arbitrary. They may well make sense given your interests, they make no sense at all with respect to mine.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilk_inc Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <ol> <li>Those that belong to the emperor</li> <li>Embalmed ones</li> <li>Those that are trained</li> <li>Suckling pigs</li> <li>Mermaids (or Sirens)</li> <li>Fabulous ones</li> <li>Stray dogs</li> <li>Those that are included in this classification</li> <li>Those that tremble as if they were mad</li> <li>Innumerable ones</li> <li>Those drawn with a very fine camel hair brush</li> <li><em>Et cetera</em></li> <li>Those that have just broken the flower vase</li> <li>Those that, at a distance, resemble flies</li> </ol> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebu_lamar Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <blockquote> <p>All my life I have been obsessed with classification, not matter the subject matter.</p> </blockquote> <p>I don't classify because I can't stand having something that is not quite in any classification.</p> <blockquote> <p>I consider a classic camera as a manual focus film camera before the autofocus era, although my Nikon F4 gets tangled up with my classics.</p> </blockquote> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_brown7 Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>Hi,<br> 1. Vilk just about sums it up<br> 5. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christian_fox Posted July 3, 2013 Author Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>There must be a few serious closet classification guys out there - I don't want to be alone.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Let's start with:<br>- Those that are.<br>- Those that aren't.<br>Proven more than difficult enough on numerous occassions here. (Hence, perhaps, the answers you got.) ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony_lockerbie Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>Sorry,I don't classify much, but when I started collecting I was going to concentrate on just Voigtlander cameras...well that went to hell!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred_haeseker Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>I specialized in different designs through the ages:<br> 1. Pioneer SLR -- Graflex<br> 2. 35mm SLR -- Nikon<br> 3. TLR -- Mamiya<br> 4. Classic 35mm RF designs -- Leica, Kiev (Contax copy)<br> 5. MF folders -- Voigtlander, Moskva (Super Ikonta copy)<br> 6. Press camera -- Speed Graphic<br> 7. LF -- Ansco 8x10<br> Now that I've got these my collecting days are over. They're all working, and I use each from time to time -- no shelf queens.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 <p>I really like Vilk's list. Bravo.</p> <p>For my own "classifications", this is what I've worked on.<br /> My only "completionist" category was the <em>Reiche Auswahl</em> group.</p> <ol> <li>at least one of each <em>generation </em>(e.g, Praktica FX, L, etc) of East German SLRs - check</li> <li><em>every</em> camera in <em>Reiche Auswahl</em> - a 1950s East German advertising pamphlet - check</li> <li>my personal "best looking SLRs" list (Contax S, Pentax, Nikon F, Olympus OM-1, etc.) - check</li> <li>each significant 'breakthrough" in the 'main' (not Rebels, etc) EOS <em>film</em> line - check</li> <li>a representative collection of early AF film cameras - check</li> <li>Contax rangefinders and their "look-alikes" - working on it</li> <li>early digital cameras - looks like I may have waited too long to get started on this one...</li> </ol> <p>With the exception of number 7, I've been posting here (P.net in general and CMC for most) on all of these.</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_chuang1 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 <p>> I don't want to be alone.<br> I never understood the anti-Garbo mindset, but heck, I'll play too -- even though Vilk has clearly set the unbeatable high score. Bravo (or Brava as the case may be) indeed.<br> <br />Classifications:<br> 1. Things I planned to buy, for whatever reason (50-70% of expenditure, 70+% of use)<br> 2. Unplanned things that caught my eye, because they were pretty, shiny, neat or astoundingly hideous (20-30% expenditure, ~20% use)<br> 3. Useless crap that was "such a good deal" (10-20% expenditure, <10% use)</p> <p>Alternate classification scheme:<br> * things that say "Nikon" on them<br> * things that say "Canon" on them<br> * things that say "Minolta" on them<br> well, you get the idea.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bebu_lamar Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 <blockquote> <p>There must be a few serious closet classification guys out there - I don't want to be alone.</p> </blockquote> <p>I am very serious and that's why I gave up on classification because I simply can't do it right.<br> But seriously in your past few posts in this forum I got the feeling that you're not serious.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Currie Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 <p>My classification is a bit different from some. It is, roughly this:</p> <p>1: Too cheap to refuse.</p> <p>2: Too interesting to refuse if cheap enough</p> <p>3: Cheap camera that really needs to have some film in it.</p> <p>4: A Nikon F (but it still has to be pretty cheap).</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolver Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 <p>1. Nikon F~<br> 2. Leica/Fed/Zorki screw<br> 3. Connected to Walter Dorwin Teague<br> 4. Tiny and cute (e.g. Minox Leica)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuck_foreman1 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I see myself in so may posts here.. I often deny I have a collection, but at 40 cameras.. it's hard to deny anymore.. and there is no fixed rhyme or reason. But I'm sure if another user here looked through the pile he'd recognize some themes. I consider it happenstance.. ie whatever comes my way = cheap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryreid Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 Stuff I'm going to keep Stuff I'm going to sell, (to buy more stuff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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