jay_capodiferro Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 I have read many articles and posts in regard to transporting rollfim (negative and slide) thru airport security scanners. However, I am interested in bringing along sheet film and I wonder if the same rules apply (not that there are any hard fast rules). The film I plan on bringing is Efke PL100. Should I bother? or just decide to bring a camera that takes roll film only?Also, a film bag (scanner safe?) is not an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Is there any reason you feel that sheet film would react differently than roll film at the same ISO? Maybe I don't understand sheet film, but I was under the impression that it's just bigger versions of the roll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jay_capodiferro Posted December 17, 2004 Author Share Posted December 17, 2004 I should have clarified something in my original post. I normally shot roll film that comes in foil packaging. My box of sheet film is opened and simply rapped in a black plastic. That is my main concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neal_wydra1 Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Dear Jay, I would just send it through the X-Ray machine (carry-on, of course). Neal Wydra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phule Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 Jay, The foil does not protect your film. Neither do so called "film bags." If the operator is not able to see inside a container, they just ramp up the power until they can. Also, you can request a hand-check of film in US airports. This post of mine probably won't survive the Non-Archive part of the GNA forum, but it might be worth checking out while it's still alive: http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00AT63 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_hull Posted December 17, 2004 Share Posted December 17, 2004 OPERATORS CANNOT "RAMP UP" THE AMOUNT OF X-RAY. This fallacy keeps coming up. I know this for a fact. Additionally, lead bags do provide some slight protection. The operators CAN see in lead bags, but it does cut down on the amount of xray that hits the film. But the scanner has ONE setting, ON. They could choose to run it through 1001 times, but that is another issue. Just ask nicely for a hand check, I have never been refused (in the U.S.). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_divenuti Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 Andrew- Thank goodness somebody has finally pointed this out! A typical carry-on scanner delivers about 0.1 mRm in radiation which is equivalent only to about a few hours worth of background radiation. There is no means by which the operator cam increase that dosage. If an inspector doesn't like what's in a leaded bag, they will simply ask you to remove it and then either hand-check it or run it through the machine without the bag. I'd recommend folks take a look at dynavision.com - a vendor of many such machines - if they are curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelly_flanigan1 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 <i>OPERATORS CANNOT "RAMP UP" THE AMOUNT OF X-RAY.</i><BR><BR>In the 1950's; some shoes stores still had X-ray devices; to allow the store saleperson and you to see how your shoes fit. The brightness could be varied on the one I saw; it think it just was a B+ high voltage supply voltage adjustment. We would experiment placing different items in the device; and varying the brightness knob. As kids we would of course try golfballs; a mouse; frog; model train car; davy crocket racoon cap; 620 box camera; watch; WW2 practice grenade; Apple; dice; tacks; Yankee drill; or a cat if brave .:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.wind-upbird Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 People also weren't as obsessed in the 1950s with safety and lawsuits as they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_briggs2 Posted December 18, 2004 Share Posted December 18, 2004 <p>Definitely bring your sheet film is LF photography is your preference. There is no need for the inspection process to change your photgraphy, particularly with a slow film.</p> <p>The TSA has a statement about transporting film: <a href="http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1035.xml">http://www.tsa.gov/public/interapp/editorial/editorial_1035.xml</a>. They consider sheet film to be a specialty film for which they recommend hand inspection instead of x-raying. While the TSA personel are generally more professional, polite and effective then the previous screeners, my experience is that this is one rule that they tend to be unaware of. I think the lead bags are useful in reducing the exposure. With an ASA 100 film you really don't have anything to worry about. Just don't put it in your checked baggage because the CAT-scan style machines sometimes used for checked baggage can ruin any undeveloped film.</p> <p>P.S. While some of today's safety concerns are overblown, people were harmed in the 1950s by uses of radiation including x-rays.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al_divenuti Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Michael, I've read those regs. and the only problem is that the TSA has a loophole whereby they can basically do whatever in their best judgement is necessary to maintain security...so don't be surprised if that would include refusing the request of somebody who argued a little too persistently that he had a right to have his film hand-checked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamin_lineberry Posted December 28, 2004 Share Posted December 28, 2004 Your sheet film will be fine.<br> I went to Paris in the spring, and took several boxes of 4x5 tmax 400. I couldn't find a single security checkpoint to hand inspect my film. Not one. All online guidelines say that most will, but in practice, no one will.<br> My film and holders were xray an uncountable number of times at four airports and a number of tourist attractions. I assumed my film was ruined. Much to my surprise, however, the film was perfectly fine, with no increase in FB+F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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