mark_drutz Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 <p>I just bought a Canon SX10 IS from Abes of Maine which is in central New Jersey (Exit 10 of the Turnpike). I live near the store so I went there so I could handle the camera before buying it. It was a very good experience. They were very low pressure. In fact I'd say they were no pressure, and their price was competitive. If you live in the area, I recommend giving them a try. I never ordered from their website so I can't vouch for that, but shopping in the store was a very good experience.</p> <p>I have no connection to the store in any way and I don't know if this kind of post is allowed. I only mention it because I always say to handle an item before buying it, and this seems to be a well stocked store with competitive prices and very good service.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mary Doo Posted August 19, 2009 Share Posted August 19, 2009 <p>Not in Maine?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
railphotog Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p>I think they started in Old Orchard Beach in Maine. Way back when I recall reading their ads and they were in Maine, but must have moved to NJ some time later, nearer to the other large dealers.</p> <p>I can remember going to Old Orchard Beach - a small resort type town south of Portland - as a young fellow, and seeing the camera stores along the waterfront, with shelves loaded with camera gear from top to bottom. Never had enough money to buy anything!</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p><a href="http://www.photo.net/neighbor/view-one-about?id=2&about=Abe%27s+of+Maine">http://www.photo.net/neighbor/view-one-about?id=2&about=Abe%27s+of+Maine</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucecahn Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p>Were they ever in Maine? I know they used to be in Brooklyn. I think the" honest" was dropped as well. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p>Resellerratings (<a href="http://www.resellerratings.com/store/Abe_s_of_Maine">link</a> ). They're no scam shop, but I think their "aggressive" sales pitches strike slow-moving Midwesterners (like me) somewhat negatively on occasion. I have dealt with them long ago and had no cause for complaint.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Sully Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p>Just a note, there are over 5000 stores reviewed <a href="../neighbor/subcategory-index?id=2">here</a> . Have a question about a store? You can probably find the answer at the above link.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertle Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p>Bob and Bruce called it. According to their web site atarted in Old Orchard Beach, Maine. in '79. Moved to Brooklyn in '86 and most recently moved to Edison NJ. I also seem to recall that honest was part of their advertising in photo mags but I'm not certain on that point.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_levine Posted August 20, 2009 Share Posted August 20, 2009 <p>They didn't move to NJ, they escaped to there. I seem to recall a lot of bad press with fraud issues over the years. The PN seller ratings that Dave H. posted , say it all.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_liberty Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 <p>If everything worked out well you can count yourself as lucky. The problems that people have had w/ this company are semi-legendary.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_drutz Posted August 21, 2009 Author Share Posted August 21, 2009 <p>I went to the store so I can't vouch for their website service. I did check them with the BBB and resellerratings.com and both gave them satisfactory ratings. It's possible that in the past there were problems, but you can check with resellerratings.com and bbb.com yourself.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerwb Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 <p>Likely they cleaned up their act somewhat when they went out of state. While in Maine they were known as a tourist trap, selling brand name but grey market bodies with crapola lenses.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_drutz Posted August 22, 2009 Author Share Posted August 22, 2009 <p>I just double checked them. Resellerratings.com gives them a 6 month rating of 8.06 and lifetime of 7.42. Average is 8.17 so it seems that they are average now and were below average in the past. BBB.com shows them as an Accredited Business with a B- rating which is about average. Accredited means that they agree to abide by BBB standards, and they are monitored to assure compliance. These ratings are significantly lower than B&H and Adorama who get outstanding ratings. As I said, I went to the store. I wouldn't recommend or discourage use of the website.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_henderson Posted August 22, 2009 Share Posted August 22, 2009 <p>Couple of questions. </p> <p>First, what makes you think that the ratings you're looking at haven't been manipulated? Certainly there have been allegations on this site in the past that they have "encouraged" positive feedback.</p> <p>Second if you think after reading historical feedback that they scam some of their customers , is it right to think that they're ok simply because they didn't scam you? </p> <p>The world isn't short of places to buy photographic equipment. Why would anyone choose to do so from a place with a reputation that can at the very best be considered spotty? Why not reward the organisations that serve their customers well?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_drutz Posted August 22, 2009 Author Share Posted August 22, 2009 <p>I don't care where anyone shops. I've bought from B&H since the early 80's and Adorama since the early 90's and I still deal with them. I went to Abe's because it is 20 minutes away and I don't have to fight city traffic and hunt for a parking space. Before I went I checked with resellerratings.com and BBB.com (Better Business Bureau). Even if they stacked resellerratings.com they couldn't do that with the BBB. If anyone doesn't trust Abe's or anyone else, they shouldn't do business with them. I don't get a commission. I don't care. I thought that I would share my pleasant experience with anyone on the forum who cared. Also, for the third time, I went to the store. I didn't deal with their website and won't recommend it or badmouth it. I thought that anyone who lived near the store, which is centrally located in NJ, might want to check them out.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markci Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 <p>A "satisfactory" rating from the BBB is an extremely low standard. If you aren't actually knocking your customers over the head with a tire iron as they come through the door, stealing their wallets and dumping their unconscious bodies in a ditch some place (or at least haven't been caught doing it too many times) you can get a satisfactory rating from BBB. Businesses worth dealing with do much better.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_drutz Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 <p>Mark, that may be true where you live, but not where I live.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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