joshua_lee Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>Hey guys first post on photo.net</p> <p>anyways im looking for a 35mm prime for my 5d mark ii. I am looking around $500 or less range. Main uses would be a walk around lens that is fairly sharp. I mainly shoot video with the camera and occasional photographs. MF is fine and ideally looking for something that has a larger focusing ring for video purposes. I currently have a nikon 50mm f1.2 ais and i love it. I would get the 35mm nikon ais but seems to be lacking optically compared to the 50 1.2 and newer primes.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_ Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 For street shooting with my 5DII, I regularly use and can highly recommend the Zeiss 35mm f/2 ZE. But it's MF and costs around $1K. The focus ring is large and the feel is superb. www.citysnaps.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjoseph7 Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>Nikon 35mm f1.4 is sellling on eBay for about $500+ last time I looked, much more if it's in mint condition, but then you will have to purchase an adapter. Personally, if I was going for a manual lens to go with the 5D Mark II, I would probably go for a Zeiss series lens, but since your budget only allows for max-$500 you might try looking at the Canon 35mm non-USM AF f2, which sells for about $300+. Some people swear by this lens, but optically and build quality wise you might be better off with the Nikon.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>The EF 35mm f/2 is a great lens and should be within your price range. It goes on eBay for from $200 to $350.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua_lee Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>is there any older zeiss 35mm weird mount that can be adapted for my use i know the current one is amazing and would love to be able to afford that but again i don't mind throwing on an adapter to convert. the canon 35mm f2 is the one that seems to be the best in my price range but im going to wait after photokina in hopes of an update. Would it be worth saving up for the zeiss and waiting than going for the 35mm from canon?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richterjw Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>Is there a reason that you seem to be largely opposed to Canon's 35mm f/2? It has withstood the test of time as a good lens; it's only downside is a lack of USM. The Sigma 30mm f/1.4 is within your price range as well; have you given it consideration? JR</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
model mayhem gallery Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>You can buy the Canon 35 F2.0 new for like $260. However, I have a beast of a time focusing with my 50 1.8 when shooting video that wide open. If people move forward or back just a little they will be out of focus. Also 35MM is not always wide enough for video since you can't shoot video in portrait possition. I would strongly recommend my favorite lens for video and go with the Canon 17-40 F4L. The focus ring is silky smooth with no noise or clunks and has full time manual focus over ride which many primes don't have. On my 5D2 I find I shoot video closer to 17MM than 40MM. The price of the 17-40 is around $650 so a little out of your budget but I believe you will get way more use from that than the prime. I have both the 85 1.2L and the sharp 50 1.8 but very seldom ever use them as my Tamron 28-75 and Canon 17-40 do the job perfectly.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuppyDigs Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>I've owned an EF 35 2.0 since the early 90s are it has never failed me. Unlike my 50 1.8 it is decent wide open and excellent at F2.8. Although AF isn't great in terms of speed I found it more reliable at snagging focus than both my 50 1.8 and 50 1.4 USM. The MF ring is loose as a damn goose...</p> <p>If you want a nice MF ring you'll have to shop around for a beater EF 35 1.4L. You might find a scraped up sampe for 5 bills.</p> Sometimes the light’s all shining on me. Other times I can barely see. - Robert Hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>It's true that you can be lucky on eBay, but actually new (not "like new") EF 35mm f/2 lenses sell now at B&H for $329, and sometimes for more on eBay (my prices above were based on recent eBay completed listings) by people who haven't done their homework.</p> <p>I too, don't understand the reluctance to consider this lens - the manual focus on it is not as smooth as some, but I wouldn't think it would be that bad.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua_lee Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>I am definitely not disregarding this lens at all. I just dont want to put in the money for this one when waiting and spending it on a zeiss or l lens later on would be better worth the money. Another thing is i am located in canada and the cheapest price new here is $400. As a response to M P and the 17-40 f4 i tend to shoot my 50 at f1.2 - 2.8 a lot of the time. When shooting object i stop down to f1.2-2 and shoot people at f1.8-2.8 so the extra stops are necessary. If i decide on the canon 35mm f2 and they dont release an update i will definitely be looking used. I guess my original point to the post was other than the canon brand was there any other lenses to look at.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g dan mitchell Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Canon's EF 35mm f/2 is a fine little lens and an excellent optical performer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan_bryant1 Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>Regarding the Sigma 30mm f/1.4 recommended above, it's a fine lens but doesn't have a full-frame image circle, so won't really work for a 5D mk II.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark_pierlot Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>Any Zeiss and Pentax M42 mount lens is readily adaptable to EOS bodies, Joshua. There are a lot of very nice Zeiss Jena lenses around that can be had quite cheaply. I can't specifically recommend a 35mm, though, since mine are 50mm, 135mm, and 180mm.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilya_e Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 <p>Canon 35mm f/2 is a great performer if you are mainly using it for stills. I used to have it but sold it after trying Zeiss 35mm f/2 ZE. It is way better than Canon, especially for video applications. Mint copies on eBay sell for about $800. Since you mainly shoot videos I suggest you get Zeiss.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g dan mitchell Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 <blockquote> <p><em>"...Zeiss 35mm f/2 ZE. It is way better than Canon, especially for video applications."</em></p> </blockquote> <p>I'm a still-only guy, so could you help me understand what makes the Zeiss better for video applications? Thanks.</p> <p>Dan</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osfania Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 <p>I would opt for a Contax (Zeiss) 35/1.4 Distagon MF. Supreme optical quality. Sublime bokeh. You can find a Contax to Canon EF adapter on eBay.</p> <p>If this lens is too spendy, Contax also made a 35/2.8 MF that is probably just as good optically, but 4 stops slower. (Did I count right?) This lens should be found easily within your price range. KEH.com usually has many of these primes in stock. Their rating system is conservative and their service is top notch. I just checked (Sept. 21) and they had no 35mm, but plenty of 28/2.8 and 25/2.8 in stock for less than $400.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshua_lee Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 <p>Cool i will definitely check out KEH. Question though does it matter which Contax Series i buy or will only one of them adapt to EOS? And Dan you want to get lens that are very smooth in focus as you will be tracking focus while shooting. Also you want lens that breath the least. (Lenses change focal length depending on focus even if it is a prime so when tracking focus your lens zooms in and out). Zeiss makes EOS mount video primes but they cost more than the camera so most people go with photo lenses.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewg_ny Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 <p>f/1.4->2.0->2.8 = 2 stops.<br> Pretty sure the video shooter's concern here is for manual focus feel including the size of the focusing ring which tends to be on the slim side on AF lenses. Also probably wants a longish focus throw for easier fine tuning and making smoother focus changes manually while shooting video.<br> I would think that optical quality to the umpteenth-degree might be a smaller concern when shooting video which is inherently lower resolution than stills but apparently the OP has concerns here...though the request for 'fairly sharp' seems at odds with concerns of the 35mm nikkor ai-s 'seems to be lacking optically'</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee_carruthers Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 <p>I use my Nikkor 35mm f2 AIS with an adapter occasionally. A nice lens with a good manual focus action. Much cheaper than any of the f1.4s and better bokeh than the Canon f2 version (which I also own and use) which has a 5 blade aperture. I think I paid about $300 for it. Stop down metering though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
model mayhem gallery Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 <p>G-Dan Mitchell looks like your question was never really answered. I shoot both stills and video with my 5D Mark II and i think the quality or lack of quality in a lens is much more obvious when shooting stills than shooting video. I have found lighting and focusing to be much more important with video. To get much better focusing I use an external monitor but don't really refocus while shooting. To keep from refocusing I have to use a smaller aperture and have never had good results shooting video wider than f4 unless it is a very controlled shoot. <br> I think this Zeiss VS Canon thing is equivalent to Macs are way better than PC's, both get the job done in the end, but some are die hard mac others are die hard PC. Are the pictures from Lightroom or Photoshop really better on a Mac than a PC if both have calibrated monitors?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_littleboy__tokyo__ja Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 <p>The (Cosina) Voigtlander 40/2.0 is another option here. I like mine, and find it marginally better than the Canon 35/2.0. My Canon 35/2.0 is dreamy at f/2.0 whereas the Voightlander isn't bad at all (in the center). But other than that (and the Canon's still mushy corners at f/5.6 vs. the Voightlander's sharp f/5.6 corners) the differences are pretty small.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_littleboy__tokyo__ja Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 <p>Oops. The Voigtlander's focusing ring is probably too small for you (although it does have a nice long throw). But the (Cosina) Zeiss lens focusing rings are an amazing joy to use. Save your pennies for a couple of months and get the Zeiss 35/2.0.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g dan mitchell Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 <blockquote> <p><em>"G-Dan Mitchell looks like your question was never really answered. I shoot both stills and video with my 5D Mark II and i think the quality or lack of quality in a lens is much more obvious when shooting stills than shooting video. I have found lighting and focusing to be much more important with video. To get much better focusing I use an external monitor but don't really refocus while shooting. To keep from refocusing I have to use a smaller aperture and have never had good results shooting video wider than f4 unless it is a very controlled shoot. </em><br /><em>I think this Zeiss VS Canon thing is equivalent to Macs are way better than <a href="00XKVn?start=10" target="_blank">PC</a>'s, both get the job done in the end, but some are die hard mac others are die hard PC. Are the pictures from Lightroom or Photoshop really better on a Mac than a PC if both have calibrated monitors."</em></p> </blockquote> <p>Thanks for taking a shot at responding to my question. It is a real question since I don't know all of the stuff that might be at play for video. </p> <p>But I'm still not clear about what specific aspects of the EF 35mm f/2 would make it less suitable for <em>video on a DSLR</em> as compared to the non-Canon lenses that were mentioned. It is merely the larger focusing ring that one other writer mentioned? It can't be resolution since still images provide a much greater challenge than video.</p> <p>Thanks,</p> <p>Dan</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDMvW Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 <p>Another possibility, works just fine on a "fool-frame" is the PC-Nikkor 35mm f/2.8. It's a shift lens but has easy pre-set aperture and focus. It's a nice lens and has shaped many of my camera purchases going back to 1971. I still use it for architectural shots.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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