q.g._de_bakker Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 When you're using tools that allow you to do what you want to do, to the standard you set, it is easy, but rather naive, to believe that the quality of those tools doesn't matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 If you think that using a lens that gives you this amount of lines per mm versus what that lens gives you then you are a hopelessly head up your ass nerd. Strangely, you're the first person in this thread to even mention lines per mm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Street Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Study art, not lens designs. Find a camera that feels good in your hands. Make prints... not just digital files or contact sheets. Finish your work. Mmm-hmm. Some home truths in that sentence. Studying art will be easy for those who can create through their mind's eye and conceptualise ideas. 'Twill be completely lost on those who are head-over-heels enamoured and addicted and besotted by technology and automation that only serves to obstruct the path to creativity. The cameras I use don't actually, really "feel good in [my] hands" But they are only tools to get the job done, not the Mona Lisa. Another day, more work... _______________________________________ L/mm?? I think I last paid any attention to that floss around 1984...:rolleyes: 1 Garyh | AUS Pentax 67 w/ ME | Swiss ALPA SWA12 A/D | ZeroImage 69 multiformat pinhole | Canon EOS 1N+PDB E1 Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Fujichrome E6 user since 1977. Ilfochrome Classic Master print technician (2003-2010) | Hybridised RA-4 print production from Heidelberg Tango scans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 technology and automation that only serves to obstruct the path to creativity. Really? I see the invention of photography as being a paradigm shift in the field of art. By commencing to democratise the process of representational image-making. With time, advances in technology and mass-production have increased the reach of that democratisation process; to the point where the majority of the world's population can now readily capture images from life. Witness the explosion of images and creativity displayed on the internet. Many mundane, agreed, but also many showing a degree of creativity, and indeed expression of beauty and individuality, that would otherwise be denied to their creators. Only technology has made that possible. So who cares if autofocus, auto-exposure, digital processing or any other technical aid was involved? The important thing is that a worthwhile picture has been brought into existence, and/or perhaps an important slice of history has been captured. A picture that you, I, or anyone else is free to enjoy (or endure). A picture that someone was free to create without undergoing a lengthy apprenticeship in painting, drawing, chemistry, or other tedious obstruction to their creativity. Solely because of technology. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_gardner4 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I speed read most of this because it started to get bitchy and childish, but I do have a few questions. What is art? Whose definition of art do we study? When we have studied it, what might we learn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCL Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 I speed read most of this because it started to get bitchy and childish, but I do have a few questions. What is art? Whose definition of art do we study? When we have studied it, what might we learn? IMHO vision and technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_gardner4 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 IMHO vision and technique. Good point well made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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