amandadeanne Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Nice composition, but not enough exposure and too much development. More exposure will reveal detail in the shadows, and less development will control the highlights and stop 'em being blown out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandadeanne Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) Nice composition, but not enough exposure and too much development. More exposure will reveal detail in the shadows, and less development will control the highlights and stop 'em being blown out. Awesome. Thank you. Edited October 29, 2020 by amandadeanne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandadeanne Posted October 29, 2020 Author Share Posted October 29, 2020 Double post...sorry about that. I edited it a bit. Is this better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 No. Blacks have turned to dark greys. No more detail in the dark (and light) parts than in the original. The original is definitely better. Do you think the original is bad? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandadeanne Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 No. Blacks have turned to dark greys. No more detail in the dark (and light) parts than in the original. The original is definitely better. Do you think the original is bad? Not at all...I was just playing around with someone's suggestion, that's all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) The main issue, for me - but all pictures are a matter of taste - is that there's no detail in the shaded parts of the chess pieces. Changing the brightness in editing won't get that detail back. As q.g. so bluntly states, those areas have just turned from black to grey. That lack of detail needs to be addressed at the taking stage; by increasing the camera exposure. Or maybe reflecting a bit of light into the shadows - a sheet of white paper held next to the camera would probably do the job with a small subject like this. It would help if you told us what equipment you're using - film or digital - and which post-processing editor. BTW, I think the edited version has improved the highlights by lending them a deliberate glaring quality. It also disguises what looks like crumpled-up paper in the background of the first picture. Pay attention to backgrounds, they can make or break a still-life like this. Edited October 30, 2020 by rodeo_joe|1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 The aim of photography is to produce good images. Containg as much detail as possible is not a necessary prerequisite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 What gear did you use, amandadeane? Interesting composition. It's been a long time since I photographed a chess board (even longer since I played). My first chess photo was my sophomore year in high school: I illuminated the chess board with a five cell flashlight and let the electronic shutter on my Pocket Instamatic 40 do the rest. Surprisingly, I got a printable image. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandadeanne Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 The main issue, for me - but all pictures are a matter of taste - is that there's no detail in the shaded parts of the chess pieces. Changing the brightness in editing won't get that detail back. As q.g. so bluntly states, those areas have just turned from black to grey. That lack of detail needs to be addressed at the taking stage; by increasing the camera exposure. Or maybe reflecting a bit of light into the shadows - a sheet of white paper held next to the camera would probably do the job with a small subject like this. It would help if you told us what equipment you're using - film or digital - and which post-processing editor. BTW, I think the edited version has improved the highlights by lending them a deliberate glaring quality. It also disguises what looks like crumpled-up paper in the background of the first picture. Pay attention to backgrounds, they can make or break a still-life like this. I'm using a smartphone and a free online photo editor right now, but I'm looking to get a decent camera soon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandadeanne Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 What gear did you use, amandadeane? Interesting composition. It's been a long time since I photographed a chess board (even longer since I played). My first chess photo was my sophomore year in high school: I illuminated the chess board with a five cell flashlight and let the electronic shutter on my Pocket Instamatic 40 do the rest. Surprisingly, I got a printable image. Right now, I only have a smartphone and a free online photo editor, but I hope to get a decent camera as soon as I possibly can.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Parsons Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 Right now, I only have a smartphone and a free online photo editor, but I hope to get a decent camera as soon as I possibly can.. When you do, we'll be with you, but take your time about choosing a camera, make sure it is what you need as well as want ! And ask as many questions as you like concerning your choice, we'll be happy to help to the best of our ability. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G. Dainis Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 What bothers me is the chessboard is set up incorrectly. A white square should be in the right hand corner beneath the rook. That is the correct way for a chess board to be, with the light square in the lower right hand corner. I don't know why but I would say that for the majority of times I see a chess board in a movie or TV, they have it set up wrong with the dark square in the right hand corner. Is there some subconscious level that wants the dark square in the right hand corner? James G. Dainis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 What bothers me is the chessboard is set up incorrectly. :) I recently had a show of my work and included a photo of a bass player. Because of where it was hanging, it looked better flipped horizontally so the bass player was facing into the picture next to it. I checked for buttons on his shirt or signs that might read backwards and nothing stood out so I went with it flipped. One of the viewers turned out to be a bass player who immediately noticed the rarity of the positioning. We all had a good laugh about it. He told me he really liked the photo. The aim of photography is to produce good images. I think a “good” image might be a kind of ultimate goal, though there’s a lot of leeway in how “good” gets defined. I wouldn’t make it a conscious goal, however. I often think the more I’ve tried to produce a good image, the more I’ve failed because it can distract me from being in the moment and fully involved in what I’m doing. I’d rather focus on my photo, my subject, and what I want to express, perhaps while producing a quirky image, a mysterious image, an intimate image, a curious image, more than a “good” one. The overt goal of “good” can be a trap by which one makes images to a pre-determined standard of goodness. Actually allowing for badness, allowing for an expansion or change in one’s own taste rather than always suiting one’s taste might just yield a kind of individuality and exploration that has a different kind of significance and reward than “good.” 2 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
q.g._de_bakker Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 :) I recently had a show of my work and included a photo of a bass player. Because of where it was hanging, it looked better flipped horizontally so the bass player was facing into the picture next to it. I checked for buttons on his shirt or signs that might read backwards and nothing stood out so I went with it flipped. One of the viewers turned out to be a bass player who immediately noticed the rarity of the positioning. We all had a good laugh about it. He told me he really liked the photo. I think a “good” image might be a kind of ultimate goal, though there’s a lot of leeway in how “good” gets defined. I wouldn’t make it a conscious goal, however. I often think the more I’ve tried to produce a good image, the more I’ve failed because it can distract me from being in the moment and fully involved in what I’m doing. I’d rather focus on my photo, my subject, and what I want to express, perhaps while producing a quirky image, a mysterious image, an intimate image, a curious image, more than a “good” one. The overt goal of “good” can be a trap by which one makes images to a pre-determined standard of goodness. Actually allowing for badness, allowing for an expansion or change in one’s own taste rather than always suiting one’s taste might just yield a kind of individuality and exploration that has a different kind of significance and reward than “good.” "Good" is whatever you want it to be. Quite right. That's why capturing as much detail as possible is not a necessary prerequisite. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samstevens Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 "Good" is whatever you want it to be. Quite right. That's why capturing as much detail as possible is not a necessary prerequisite. True. I did find it a helpful tool to learn, to look for and capture detail, which going forward allowed me to use it or not depending on the photo. 3 "You talkin' to me?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodeo_joe1 Posted October 31, 2020 Share Posted October 31, 2020 (edited) The picture makes good use of the wideangle and close-focussing lens generally fitted to smartphones. You've used a compositional device called 'leading lines' that take the viewer's gaze into the picture..... however. The end point of those leading lines is, frankly, a bit untidy and uninteresting. Maybe someone's fingers poised to move the furthest pawn could create a point of interest, and hide the untidy background? The object behind the knight 'growing out of its head' is also a bit distracting. Try to keep backgrounds plain and tidy. The great thing about digital photography, and a small still-life like that, is that you can make as many tries at improving the image as you like. And at little cost. Play around, have fun, but always be your own worst critic. That's the way forward. Edited October 31, 2020 by rodeo_joe|1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amandadeanne Posted October 31, 2020 Author Share Posted October 31, 2020 The picture makes good use of the wideangle and close-focussing lens generally fitted to smartphones. You've used a compositional device called 'leading lines' that take the viewer's gaze into the picture..... however. The end point of those leading lines is, frankly, a bit untidy and uninteresting. Maybe someone's fingers poised to move the furthest pawn could create a point of interest, and hide the untidy background? The object behind the knight 'growing out of its head' is also a bit distracting. Try to keep backgrounds plain and tidy. The great thing about digital photography, and a small still-life like that, is that you can make as many tries at improving the image as you like. And at little cost. Play around, have fun, but always be your own worst critic. That's the way forward. Yeah, I'm not too thrilled with the background, either. I tried cropping it a bit, but I hated that result even more, so I just left it as is. I like the idea of having someone's fingers poised to move the pawn. I just wish someone had been home to do it! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cameragary Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 [ATTACH]1362585[/ATTACH] I like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Parsons Posted November 1, 2020 Share Posted November 1, 2020 For some reason, the 'untidy' background to me resonated with the White Knight in Alice - possibly because in Tenniel's illustration, he has something of the same almost shambolic jumble of accoutrements. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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