Clients reacting to Camera VS Smartphone for pro photo session (NOT the usual discussion)

FWIW = For what it's worth

OTOH = On the other hand

AFAIK = As far as I know

IIRC = If I recall correctly

YMMV = Your mileage may vary

 

and many others you can look up as "internet abbreviations"!

you lazy buggers;)

you lazy buggers;)

Who are the lazy buggers, those who don't write out the phrase or those who don't google the abbreviations? :D

Who are the lazy buggers, those who don't write out the phrase or those who don't google the abbreviations? :D

:):)

Who are the lazy buggers, those who don't write out the phrase or those who don't google the abbreviations? :D

By the way, it is only in the US where people write with abreviations. I didn't even know one could google them!

The snobish Parisians are using some as well, but only them. Instaed of "I bought these shoes on Champs Elysées" they say " sur les champs". The famous tennis championchip stadion in Paris is called "Rolland Darros". The snobish say "I saw him at Rolland"!!

By the way, it is only in the US where people write with abreviations. I didn't even know one could google them!

 

The snobish Parisians are using some as well, but only them. Instaed of "I bought these shoes on Champs Elysées" they say " sur les champs". The famous tennis championchip stadion in Paris is called "Rolland Darros". The snobish say "I saw him at Rolland"!!

Roland Garros, sorry!

Roland Garros, sorry!

You’re obviously not very good at this snobbery stuff! :)

We Americans can’t be snobs. We eat too many hot dogs with plastic mustard to be too proud!

In french we have a shortcut for the last sentence: bul....t (food):mad:

Acronyms are rampant in Australia, especially in the corporate world and within each profession there is a subset of Acronym Jargon: in mixed company, it is exclusive, antisocial and tends to be rude.

Whist there has always been Jargon that is exclusive to a particular trade or profession, at the least if the words are said or written in full, outsiders have some hope of gleaning meaning. On the other hand, 'In House Acronyms' might not ever be listed as an acronym on the www.

WW

at the least if the words are said or written in full, outsiders have some hope of gleaning meaning

I studied Philosophy into grad school and we didn't use any acronyms I can think of offhand. As a matter of fact, we tended to elongate words and phrases so the outside world wouldn't understand us, and even so some insiders would get confused. Not to mention how much more enlightened it made us feel.

ALSO

Sometimes, obfuscation is a feature rather than a bug!

Circumlocution is a learned skill and a wonderful word, too – seemingly onomatopœic.

And, I got to use a diphthong.

And, I got to use a diphthong.

Not to mention the ligature to symbolize it!

^ ... the content of the wit - the passion for words and the using of them, made me think about the type of Clients who might like the idea of the photographer using a smart phones for 'pro work'.

Some Clients with "a bent", would, for no other reason other than their "bent", find idea appealing - 'just because'.

WW

I found this an interesting thread. I don't have anything to add on the OP's original question on 'client perceptions'. The thread did make me curious whether other pro photographers used camera phones.Yes they do and - as you might guess - most often for street and travel photography.

I came across the two Youtube videos (below) in which professional photographers compare their product, portrait and couple photos taken with an Iphone 11 Pro with photos (shot during the same shoot) with their usual DSLR/lens.The quality of the Iphone 11 pro photos - while not perfect - surprised me. The image size (12MP) is far lower than most modern DSLR's, But it's still good enough (without too much cropping) to make 9"x 4" prints at 300dpi. I see this as a sign of things yet to come.

The new Galaxy S20 Ultra (available in March) - like the Iphone 11 pro - also has a 'lens array' + smart software. And while the S20's default image size is 12MB too, one of its lenses take photos of 48MB and another 108 MB. While the Iphone 11 pro has 2x optical zoom, I read that the Samsung S20 Ultra has 5x optical. Again, just a sign of things to come. Many critics rate the Iphone 11 pro highly because it produces photos that look more 'natural' than other (higher tech) camera phones.

I have no axe to grind for or against camera phones. I just follow - with interest - the development of camera phone technology (hardware and smart software). I'm sure that there are - and will continue to be - many situations in which a pro photographer makes good use of his/her professional DSLR/mirrorless system with a range of lenses. Just the solid 'feel' and familiarity of my (now older) DSLR makes me prefer this above my mobile. But I do believe that the gap between top-of-the-line mobile cameras and DSLR/mirrorless systems is closing. In some photographic situations anyway.

So, just to repeat, if I were now an aspiring photographer who could just about scrape $1000 together, I think I well opt opt for the 'mobile camera' solution and expand from there. When all's said and done, I suspect that making your way as a pro photographer (which I'm not!) is more about business acumen, reputation, portfolio, personal contact, trust, reliability, direction, lighting, flexibility, a 'photographic eye' and ability to deliver great results than which photographic instrument you use.

Mike

PS view the videos in 'full view''

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I watched only the 2nd video.

The moral of the story ... use iPhones for gay weddings? :) There’s something fitting, and the ad kind of writes itself, about ‘the perfect alternative.’ And you couldn’t find two more natural and appealing guys who’d look better in backlight!

Weddings I’ve been to as a guest often provide web sites for online picture viewing and even ask guests to submit their own photos from the event, so iPhones have been well represented already but only by mere amateurs and the occasional very talented cousin (present company included).

But ... were I the groom or groom, I’d want to see a video of the 8x10 prints before committing ... oh ... wait ... ;)

... the type of Clients who might like the idea of the photographer using a smart phones for 'pro work'.

 

Some Clients with "a bent", would, for no other reason other than their "bent", find idea appealing - 'just because'.

I resemble that remark!

^ Funny.

. . . it was a difficult sentence to find the right classifier which wold be "suitable" across the vast readership here - I first wrote "oddment Clients" . . . then I thought 'type of' and 'a bent' couldn't do that much harm and would get the meaning across, especially as I referenced the interplay about our shared oddment bent for the passion of words. .

^ Funny.

. . . it was a difficult sentence to find the right classifier which wold be "suitable" across the vast readership here - I first wrote "oddment Clients" . . . then I thought 'type of' and 'a bent' couldn't do that much harm and would get the meaning across, especially as I referenced the interplay about our shared oddment bent for the passion of words. .

I think the double entendres worked quite well and very harmlessly.

If I had hired a photographer, for whatever reason, I would specifically state I required the use of good quality camera and lens combinations, not some character in tatty jeans nipping around with a smartphone, yet charging the same price.

I would look at his/her portfolio of work.