What is street photography?

I'm not your teacher and this isn't a classroom

You’re a peer, who was invited to discuss and flesh out a point you made.

I know you know what I’m talking about.

I can’t and won’t speak for Ludmilla, but I understand what you’re saying about amalgam of meaning and street photography not being about visual puns or a distillation of superficial serendipitous facts. I understand these to be your rules or preferences, just as Turpin and Jorgensen have their rules and preferences and Brad has his judgments and preferences many times stated about surreptitious street shooting and sneaking shots.

 

What bothers me is the hypocrisy of laughing at and judging others for the very same kind behavior and attitudes that those doing the judging display. Those doing the judging simply think their rules, preferences, restrictions and judgments are better than everyone else’s.

Then, fine, your preference is to embrace amalgamated meaning in street photography and put down visual puns in street photography. That’s all it is, preference and put down (in Brad’s case, being amused). What you’re doing is no more right and no more lofty than what others are doing when they form a group to do straight street photography or they go out and shoot visual puns. And your preference for amalgamated meanings in street photography doesn’t make that what street photography is and doesn’t make visual puns what street photography isn’t. It simply states one man’s preference.

What isn't street photography?

 

It isn’t about chasing visual puns that last as long as it takes one to “like” and then forget about it on Instagram.

You said it before and you’ve said it again. “It isn’t about ...” The problem is you’re wrong, because for many it is about this. You just don’t think it should be because you see yourself as the master of the universe, determining what street photography is and isn’t in a single bound.

Give it a rest.

I actually prefer street photography that is an amalgam of meaning and don’t like visual puns as much. But I recognize that as my preference and not to be what street photography is. And, while I didn’t love the exhibit of Elliott Erwitt I saw a while back, he did do some great visual puns that didn’t need or want much more meaning than that. They were what they were and I respected them well enough for that.

Give it a rest.

Turn the channel if you don’t like it.

Give it a rest.

 

Hmm... I like pictures of

turtles...

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I merely see myself as a photographer who's better than, let's say, 98 % of what's out there

If that’s important you, then I’m happy that’s how you see yourself. You get a big pat on the ego for being better than the rest of us. That and $2.75 will get you from Times Square to Park Slope on a subway.

 

I agree, actually, that your photography is quite good. Don’t feel the need to compare it to the rest of the world’s. Your writings here on photography, art, and AI are much less good.

Hmm... I like pictures of

turtles...

 

Not, perhaps, "street photography" but I'd like one person here, at least, to be pleased:

As you have noticed, I’m talking about your writings beyond this thread. So it ought to be obvious “often” wasn’t based on this thread alone. It was based on my having read many of your posts over the years.

 

I didn’t say I hold them dear, but I do read and digest what you say. We’ve sparred enough over the last several years and I’ve often read you carefully as an aid in formulating opposing thoughts, which I often have. Not agreeing with you doesn’t lead to my not paying attention to you and none of this should translate to my holding your thoughts dear, though I understand that characterization is just another means of snark condescension.

 

In any case your condescension hasn’t actually addressed my points about restriction in street photography not primarily being due to wanting a comfort zone, but I just assume you shot from the hip on saying that and have no intellectual justification for it other than, of course, condescension, the seeming comfort zone you, yourself, have settled into.

 

Holy smokes, Fred!

 

Such hypocrisy. Your oblique back-handed condescension is legend on photonet. Masters level. One just needs to read your posts. A real shame you're not able to own that. Recognition is the first step.

 

Regarding your "points," are you serious? There's not much to say when you state the obvious. It's like wading through molasses. Photographers and artists place/impose restrictions on themselves for a variety of reasons and purposes (I mentioned one). Is there anyone here who doesn't know that? That's been discussed for ages here, going back to the beginning of photonet on a wide range of topics. How about raising the level of the discussion a bit?

you state the obvious

Another of your well worn fallback memes.

What bothers me is the hypocrisy of laughing at and judging others for the very same kind behavior and attitudes that those doing the judging display. Those doing the judging simply think their rules, preferences, restrictions and judgments are better than everyone else’s.

 

Jeeez... You totally missed the point of what I thought was amusing. Which had absolutely nothing to do with their rules and restrictions, let alone judging them.

 

Slow down and take a minute to absorb what people are saying.

Edited April 13, 2019 by Brad_

Another of your well worn fallback memes.

 

Relax.

 

Regarding you stating the obvious...Do I really need to list a few of the myriad restrictions photographers place on themselves for a variety of reasons? Seriously?

Relax.

 

Do I really need to list a few of the myriad restrictions photographers place on themselves for a variety of reasons? Seriously?

No, you just need to observe how often you accuse those you disagree with, not just me, of stating the obvious.

Would it bother you if I posted a Blake Andrews type photo in a WNW thread?

Not at all

No, you just need to observe how often you accuse those you disagree with, not just me, of stating the obvious.

 

Honestly can't think of anyone else here with respect to constantly stating the obvious. As I said earlier, it's like wading through molasses getting through your points. Especially regarding street shooting. Raise the bar a little.

Brad and Phil are very capable photographers street or otherwise.

 

Worth listening to, for those who have ears that listen..