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One photographer I follow on Instagram showed an exposure that was 10 stops over. I got a huge shock, as I didn't think that the film could handle that. It wasn't really usable in its raw state, but there was almost nothing blown out. That sort of performance, I thought, was reserved for negative emulsions.
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Well, I still have my Nikon FM3a and an FM2n so it would be nice to try some Kodak again.

 

My last roll of Velvia 50 was processed in March this year and I've been debating getting rid of the analogue cameras (my digital camera is still my D40 which I love to bits and I am saving up for my next digital camera likely to be an end of the line D7200 so that I can still use my Ai lenses). However, it will all depend on the price of the Ektachorme for me because I'm looking at prices of £12.99 for a roll of Velvia 100 right now as the cheapest I can get my hands on unless I buy it in bulk and even then the price per roll will not come down that much

 

At the moment therefore I have been getting into B & W but have found 24 exposure Tri-X (my favourite fast B&W film) very hard to get hold of in the UK now (I like 24 exp because it cost effective for me). So, I have been sticking with Ilford FP4 and rediscovering Delta 400 and some Delta 100 as well as what 24 Tri-X I can get my hands on. The biggest problem here though is that the Royal Mail has increased its postage prices for sending film in the post so it is not just the raw material and development price going up. 35mm photography at a time of austerity is not easy.

 

This post reminded me of what a great time we used to have experiencing different films. My favourite Fuji 35mm film was Velvia 100F to be honest - it was rather warm even in bright light. I have used Velvia 50 and had superb results and love Velvia 100 too especially when used with warm filtration. Provia? Yuk.

 

But I miss those Kodak emulsions I really do. I grew to love 100 VS and as soon as the labs got used to it I have some superb pictures made on that. And then there was 100EBX - the cheaper version of VS - I mean I just loved it to bits - say what you like about grain but the Kodak EBX and VS whites were indeed white and they held shadow detail a smidgen better than the Velvia 50 & 100.

 

But if there was one Kodak film that I thought was a good all rounder and very much underrated it was Kodak 100EPP. Now that was a superb film in my view. Ektachrome 100 to me was a little too muted. But if they were bringing back EPP or an Ektachrome based on EPP I would buy it without hesitation!

 

Oh well...…………...good memories!

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One photographer I follow on Instagram showed an exposure that was 10 stops over. I got a huge shock, as I didn't think that the film could handle that. It wasn't really usable in its raw state, but there was almost nothing blown out. That sort of performance, I thought, was reserved for negative emulsions.

 

Ektachrome will not give 10 stops of exposure. Keep in mind what is taken through post that appears on Instagram...

Garyh | AUS

Pentax 67 w/ ME | Swiss ALPA SWA12 A/D | ZeroImage 69 multiformat pinhole | Canon EOS 1N+PDB E1

Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Fujichrome E6 user since 1977.

Ilfochrome Classic Master print technician (2003-2010) | Hybridised RA-4 print production from Heidelberg Tango scans

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I'm reserving my mint Petri FT for the new Ektachrome. Not a very exciting camera but nostalgia is the reason for that. A Petri FT, my first SLR, was the camera I put my first Ektachrome through in the 1970s

 

An example from 47 years ago, a few light adjustments but still holding up well

 

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What are we expecting to pay for the new Ektachrome ? I'm estimating AU$22 per which equates to US$16 at current exchange rate. It's 200ASA. If it was 64 as was the original film I used, I think it would be dearer perhaps

 

(Going completely off topic, I spotted a new old stock gold Rolleiflex GX f2.8 today. I was two feet away from it. It was displayed in a the musty camera museum section of an antique shop, in it's new looking wooden box lined with still mint blue silk type material. Strap was there as well. Nice find but not for sale unfortunately)

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I'm estimating AU$22 per which equates to US$16 at current exchange rate. It's 200ASA. If it was 64 as was the original film I used, I think it would be dearer perhaps

 

B&H's pricing seems all over the place these days, but Freestyle runs $10-12/roll for Fuji emulsions, and in the recent past B&H has been at about the same price.

 

I think Kodak is going to have an uphill battle if they can't make that price point, so that's what I'm expecting for the new Ektachrome.

 

Also, where are you seeing ASA 200? Everything I've seen has referenced an ASA 100, and the beta rolls I've seen are labeled "E100"

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There is no Ektachrome 200. Likely another spurious urban myth circulating on the internet of everything. At this time it is just plain old unremarkable Ektachrome 100 in the nursery format of 35mm — hardly the stuff to wager a market stampede. What happens next?

 

Like any E6 film Ektachrome can be boosted or reduced by EI alone for subtle effects on exposure either with or wiithout push/pull processing. I think rating IS0100 film at EI200 would be drawing a long bow without significant changes in processing and an attendant compromise in rendering, but it is certainly worth a try. A couple of samples of this was shown on the Instagram feed of KodakProfessional with 1 stop over/under exposures which clearly showed the film does not cope well with uncorrected over/under exposure, but much better with 0.5 or 0.3 step revisions.

 

For Kodak to get a leg up over Fuji-san's stalwart E6 offerings, it will need to do much better than the current c.AUD$26.00 for a 35mm roll of Provia 100F, and I really cannot see Kodak doing this given the cost of development of the emulsion.

Garyh | AUS

Pentax 67 w/ ME | Swiss ALPA SWA12 A/D | ZeroImage 69 multiformat pinhole | Canon EOS 1N+PDB E1

Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Fujichrome E6 user since 1977.

Ilfochrome Classic Master print technician (2003-2010) | Hybridised RA-4 print production from Heidelberg Tango scans

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just plain old unremarkable Ektachrome 100 in the nursery format of 35mm

 

Read as I lovingly caress my one frozen pro-pack of E100GX 220...

 

Ektar 100 was only initially available in 35mm also, and now is available in sizes up to 8x10. We can only hope that Kodak will, in time, get to at least 120 with E100.

 

220 would be great, but might be asking for too much :)

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Ektar 100 was only initially available in 35mm also, and now is available in sizes up to 8x10. We can only hope that Kodak will, in time, get to at least 120 with E100.

 

A pressing interest at this time is how the market will receive Kodak's Ektachrome 100, in 35mm, when it is formally introduced. What is Kodak hoping to learn from 35mm Ektachrome? That a market of sorts — any sorts, still exists for 35mm slide film? Does that need proving in view of present offerings from Fuji?

 

The beta-testing release tells the market nothing about future events, but I agree things would have been very, very different in the beta-test was sent out in 35mm and 120 at the very least. As things stand, professionals are not that plentiful using 35mm slide film; there are more though using 120 and 4x5 and printing from these formats, not projecting.

 

I have 3 rolls of deep frozen E100VS from 2004, left over from when I reviewed this film in 2003. The chief gripe experienced was the difficulty in printing to Ilfochrome Classic.

Garyh | AUS

Pentax 67 w/ ME | Swiss ALPA SWA12 A/D | ZeroImage 69 multiformat pinhole | Canon EOS 1N+PDB E1

Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Fujichrome E6 user since 1977.

Ilfochrome Classic Master print technician (2003-2010) | Hybridised RA-4 print production from Heidelberg Tango scans

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A pressing interest at this time is how the market will receive Kodak's Ektachrome 100, in 35mm, when it is formally introduced. What is Kodak hoping to learn from 35mm Ektachrome? That a market of sorts — any sorts, still exists for 35mm slide film? Does that need proving in view of present offerings from Fuji?

 

Market research is mandatory for any new venture, in this case the reintroduction of Ektachrome. From the sales and money spent on film cameras and film still continuing, Kodak Alaris may have reasoned from their market research that 35mm was the way to go for the time being. What I believe they should do also is make E6 developing kits for home developing of the new Ektachrome

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The Tetenal E6 kit fine for home use. None of the beta test rolls have gone through anything other than stock standard E6 processing, whether home or commercial.

Garyh | AUS

Pentax 67 w/ ME | Swiss ALPA SWA12 A/D | ZeroImage 69 multiformat pinhole | Canon EOS 1N+PDB E1

Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Fujichrome E6 user since 1977.

Ilfochrome Classic Master print technician (2003-2010) | Hybridised RA-4 print production from Heidelberg Tango scans

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My mistake Ben, it's ASA 100. Be nice if it was 64 though

 

EI64 is 0.6 stop back from ISO100. Easily managed without need for 64.

Garyh | AUS

Pentax 67 w/ ME | Swiss ALPA SWA12 A/D | ZeroImage 69 multiformat pinhole | Canon EOS 1N+PDB E1

Kodachrome, Ektachrome, Fujichrome E6 user since 1977.

Ilfochrome Classic Master print technician (2003-2010) | Hybridised RA-4 print production from Heidelberg Tango scans

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