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Dear Glenn and Photo.Net,

Already past more than a month, this is my 4th time follow up my case here..

Wonder why totally no news.. no response.. no action.. from you (Glenn) and Photo.Net staff members???

1. Have you completed all investigation of my case?

2. If yes, what is the outcome?

As I mentioned, I respect your decision and let you make the final call. Kindly please let me know your investigation results and final decision, believe I deserve to know the answer as a victim here.

Kindly please look into my case, I would like to know your final decision. Don't think I am asking too much right !!

Look forward to hear you soon, thank you very much.

Best regards,

iLOVEnature

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. . . Wonder why totally no news.. no response.. no action.. from you (Glenn) and Photo.Net staff members???

 

For clarity: I am not a member of NameMedia / Photo.net staff.

 

Mine is a volunteer position.

 

My aegis in this matter ended when I reported the alleged breach of usage of your image and also sought to console you.

 

The reason I have not commented since then, is because I have no further details to comment upon.

 

As for my opinion: I think that Dieter Schaefer makes excellent points as to how the Take Down order should have been managed and also that he is correct in the fact that Photo.net does not afford any protection for members having their copyrights of images violated. He makes other relevant points also that should be taken as wise advice.

 

As for my direct advice: If it were me in your position; and having already outed the alleged offender publically on this thread; and the alleged offender having responded publically on this thread; I would now let the matter drop.

 

This thread now remains a public record of the events. Other members can and probably already have, drawn their own conclusions as to what happened with the clouds in your image.

 

WW

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For clarity: I am not a member of NameMedia / Photo.net staff.

 

Mine is a volunteer position.

 

My aegis in this matter ended when I reported the alleged breach of usage of your image and also sought to console you.

 

The reason I have not commented since then, is because I have no further details to comment upon.

 

As for my opinion: I think that Dieter Schaefer makes excellent points as to how the Take Down order should have been managed and also that he is correct in the fact that Photo.net does not afford any protection for members having their copyrights of images violated. He makes other relevant points also that should be taken as wise advice.

 

As for my direct advice: If it were me in your position; and having already outed the alleged offender publically on this thread; and the alleged offender having responded publically on this thread; I would now let the matter drop.

 

This thread now remains a public record of the events. Other members can and probably already have, drawn their own conclusions as to what happened with the clouds in your image.

 

WW

Hi William Michael,

 

I fully understand the DMC - Take Down Order suggested by Mr. Dieter Schaefer.

 

What my concern is, what is the outcome of Photo.Net? Since now is very clear that the thief "Mr. Joseph Nazoa" has disobey Photo.Net T&C, does PN plan to take any action or just leave it as like nothing happen? Besides just me, I believe many of PN members are very interested to know the decision of PN. Not just keep quiet, no response.. no news.. no answer..no action.. from PN for more than a month.

 

Thank you.

 

Best regards,

iLOVEnature

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As for my direct advice: If it were me in your position; and having already outed the alleged offender publically on this thread; and the alleged offender having responded publically on this thread; I would now let the matter drop.

 

I don't do composites but personally I won't mind it that much if only part of my image is being copied. But that's just me. I see people using any images they find on the Internet on FB, etc. That's the way things are these days.

 

Some people I know do not post much of any photos publicly for fear of being "stolen". So, no one sees their images. Others don't care. It's especially difficult for PNet to deal with if only a small portion of an image is "stolen".

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Dear all,

 

I really feel like joining Photo.Net was a joke !!!

In the beginning until right now, I only want to know the decision of PN. PN has a right to make a clear statement here, all of the PN members do not need to follow PN's T&C at all. PN allow all their members to steal other member photo, PN will not take any action to such case. My question is.. Why put ""You may not use the Site to violate anyone's copyright, trademark, intellectual property rights, or privacy rights. The User Content that you submit must be your work in its entirety." inside PN's T&C in the first place? Is it just for fun?

 

I also don't understand why PN take so long time to answer my question? As I mentioned several times, I respect any of PN decision even PN let me know here, no further action will be taken to the thief Mr. Joseph Nazoa who stole my photo for his own uses because PN members no need to follow PN's T&C at all. Hoping PN don't just keep quiet, no news.. no answer.. till the end!!

 

iLOVEnature

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Think the "thief" would give everything back and more if he had known the punishing consequence of public shaming on permanent records on PNet after he cloned and gave unintended publicity to someone's capture of the clouds. Might he have preferred a quiet fine from PNet? And now many know that, yes, the clouds are spectacular, iLOVEnature! And he stole it. ;)

 

What I mean is, give it a rest.

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Think the "thief" would give everything back and more if he had known the punishing consequence of public shaming on permanent records on PNet after he cloned and gave unintended publicity to someone's capture of the clouds. And now many know that, yes, the clouds are spectacular, iLOVEnature! ;)

Hi Mary,

 

Sorry if my word so harsh above, I am getting very frustrated and upset because no further response from PN after a month. I am a very serious nature photographer, "Copyright" is very important to me in photography and art. Anyway, appreciate and thank you very much for your praise :)

 

Best regards,

iLOVEnature

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Nature, you are getting your answer: Silence!

 

For now, it's the same answer many have been getting to their questions about PN in this forum in recent days and weeks. You are not alone.

 

What you want to try to avoid is behaving in a way that puts you on a par with the guy who you're complaining about. There may be other ways to avoid doing so, but two that have been suggested are 1) submitting the required paperwork and continuing your case in private, and/or 2) letting the matter go. The option you've chosen, continuing to ask for a public resolution to this matter, is clearly not working.

 

The serenity prayer can sometimes be a man's best friend . . .

 

"God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,

The courage to change the things I can,

And the wisdom to know the difference."

We didn't need dialogue. We had faces!
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Nature, you are getting your answer: Silence!

 

For now, it's the same answer many have been getting to their questions about PN in this forum in recent days and weeks. You are not alone.

 

What you want to try to avoid is behaving in a way that puts you on a par with the guy who you're complaining about. There may be other ways to avoid doing so, but two that have been suggested are 1) submitting the required paperwork and continuing your case in private, and/or 2) letting the matter go. The option you've chosen, continuing to ask for a public resolution to this matter, is clearly not working.

Hi Fred,

 

Silence is GOLDEN.. I totally agree if this is inside a theater or cinema. Lolx..

However, this is a public forum of PN. I would never report my case here if this is not a "Public Forum". Also, thank you very much for your opinion and suggestion. A thief is a thief.. a thief would never can stand on par with me. :)

 

iLOVEnature

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While yes something should be done about your photo being stolen, you are not alone in getting no response from admin. regarding a serious issue. The site help forum is filled with complaints from members who have received no response both to private emails to management and to their posts here in this forum.

At present there appear to be few remaining moderators and no management involvement in running the sight. Some have suggestion that admin. are too busy fixing the expanding list of bugs, however since no bugs are being fixed or as of late even acknowledged, I fear the truth may be much graver.

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While yes something should be done about your photo being stolen, you are not alone in getting no response from admin. regarding a serious issue. The site help forum is filled with complaints from members who have received no response both to private emails to management and to their posts here in this forum.

At present there appear to be few remaining moderators and no management involvement in running the sight. Some have suggestion that admin. are too busy fixing the expanding list of bugs, however since no bugs are being fixed or as of late even acknowledged, I fear the truth may be much graver.

Hi GorfonJB,

 

I specially dedicate a song to all members in PN's public forum here "You're NOT Alone from Michael Jackson" Enjoy all :)

 

Best regards,

iLOVEnature

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We approached the party in question and sought a response and we got one from him. We then banned him from making any contributions for 2 weeks and warned him about future transgressions would result in permanent banning. This issue is closed as far as we're concerned.
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Hi Glenn,

 

Thank you for your beautiful story but not a fact!! Sorry Mr. Glenn, PN sounds like a kindergarten T&C to me. Whether or not, PN really punished the thief Mr. Joseph Nazoa as like what Mr, Glenn mentioned above. ONLY "GOD" knows.. Lolx

 

Anyway as I mentioned, I respect your decision. Good bye!

 

iLOVEnature

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I don't do composites but personally I won't mind it that much if only part of my image is being copied. But that's just me. . .

 

Just as a "by the way" comment - I think that you misunderstood the meaning of my text.

 

My using the phrase "if it were me in your position" was inextricably linked to "and having already outed the alleged offender".

 

What I mean is: I'd now let the matter drop considering the vast extent of the contents of this thread which is quite public and shaming.

 

It is entirely another question as to what I would have done at the outset upon noticing a suspected breach: firstly I would NOT have pursued the matter in an open and public thread and secondly I very much doubt I would have gone to the trouble of a Take Down notice. Maybe I would have messaged or emailed the other bloke and asked him what he thought that he was up to - and maybe I might not have, either.

 

WW

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Just as a "by the way" comment - I think that you misunderstood the meaning of my text.

 

My using the phrase "if it were me in your position" was inextricably linked to "and having already outed the alleged offender".

 

What I mean is: I'd now let the matter drop considering the vast extent of the contents of this thread which is quite public and shaming.

 

It is entirely another question as to what I would have done at the outset upon noticing as suspected breach: firstly I would NOT have pursued the matter in an open and public thread and secondly I very much doubt I would have gone to the trouble of a Take Down notice. Maybe I would have messaged or emailed the other bloke and asked him what he thought that he was up to - and maybe I might not have, either.

 

WW

 

Don't think I misunderstood you. Perhaps my response was not directly addressing what you wrote. But that's OK.

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You do not understand what P.net is if you expect it to police anything.

If it wanted to, HOW would that be done?

I think you are over-reacting and expecting something that probably is unlikely to meet your demands.

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Hi Glenn,

 

Thank you for your beautiful story but not a fact!! Sorry Mr. Glenn, PN sounds like a kindergarten T&C to me. Whether or not, PN really punished the thief Mr. Joseph Nazoa as like what Mr, Glenn mentioned above. ONLY "GOD" knows.. Lolx

 

Anyway as I mentioned, I respect your decision. Good bye!

 

iLOVEnature

 

Given the fact that this subject has been discussed to the degree it has and I am sure the offending party is aware of it and feels a degree of shame which in and of itself is a penalty that is far worse than any permanent banning Photo.net could give. I also believe the subject matter has been exposed and lessons learned. This phrase comes to mind and I hope as a community we all are better for it. To err is human, to forgive is divine.

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