brian_hirschfeld Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>So I am working on a review for my website (<a href="http://www.brianhirschfeldphotography.com/" target="_blank">http://www.brianhirschfeldphotography.com</a>) about the B&W films currently available in 2011. I am going to use a set up still life subject in controlled lighting with a Mamiya 645AFD and 120mm f/4 Macro MF, after checking exposure with my DB I will take one image under exposed, one properly exposed and one one stop over exposed for each film, the rest of the roll I will take out and about and get some real world samples with. Then I'll have them processed and the best result for reach drum scanned for the final review. <br /><br />Here is a list of the 120 B&W films I have ready for the test, I know I am currently missing Ilford and Kodak's offerings but they are on the way:<br /><br />ADOX CHS 25<br />ADOX CHS 50<br />ADOX CHS 100<br /><br />EFKE R100<br />EFKE R25<br />EFKE R50<br /><br />ROLLEI/AGFA Pan 25<br />ROLLEI/AGFA Retro 400s<br />ROLLEI/AGFA RPX 400<br />ROLLEI/AGFA Superpan 200<br />ROLLEI/AGFA RPX 100<br />ROLLEI/AGFA AT2.1 Supergraphic<br />ROLLEI/AGFA ATP1.1<br />ROLLEI/AGFA Retro 80s<br />ROLLEI/AGFA Ortho 25<br /><br />these are what I have and I would love to know anyones thoughts on the tests or films that I have missed (please be nice if I missed something really obvious)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_hirschfeld Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>Added </p> <p>Neopan ARCOS 100<br> Ultrafine Extreme 400<br> Foma Fomapan Classic 100<br> Foma Fomapan Action 400</p> <p>Ilford Delta 100<br> Ilford Delta 3200<br> Ilford Delta 400<br> Ilford FP4 Plus 125<br> Ilford HP5 Plus 400<br> Ilford PAN F 50<br> Ilford XP2 400</p> <p>Kodak Tri-X 400TX<br> Kodak TMX T-Max 100<br> Kodak TMY T-Max 400</p> <p> </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>Fuji ACROS 100<br> Fomapan 100<br> Fomapan 200<br> Fomapan 400</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_hirschfeld Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>Hah right on Larry, step ahead of ya, did a lil google searching, thank you though!</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric friedemann Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>Fuji Neopan 100:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/224785-USA/Fujifilm_15341033_Neopan_Acros_100_120_Professional.html">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/224785-USA/Fujifilm_15341033_Neopan_Acros_100_120_Professional.html</a></p> <p>Fomapan 100 and 400:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/403482-REG/Foma_420112_Fomapan_Classic_100_120mm.html">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/403482-REG/Foma_420112_Fomapan_Classic_100_120mm.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/403484-REG/Foma_420412_Fomapan_Action_400_120mm.html">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/403484-REG/Foma_420412_Fomapan_Action_400_120mm.html</a></p> <p>Foma Holga 400, which may well be the same as Fomapan 400:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/792419-REG/Foma_191420_Holga_120_Black_and.html">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/792419-REG/Foma_191420_Holga_120_Black_and.html</a></p> <p>Lomography 100:</p> <p><a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/594745-REG/Lomography_681_120_Black_and_White.html">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/594745-REG/Lomography_681_120_Black_and_White.html</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>I see that.</p> <p> OK we both forgot<br> Shanghai GP-3<br> Lucky 100<br> Lucky 400</p> <p> As for the Ultrafine well it is just a repackage of one of the above...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_lusthoff Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>Adox CMS; Arista EDU series; Rollie Retro 80</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>OH yes 80s. Though it is so fine grain in 35mm I must say I shot a roll in 120 and it is so sharp and there is no grain to be seen up to 24x24 in 120.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin_polk Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>There are also a few IR films, but they still work as regular films with extended red sensitivity:<br> Efke IR820<br> Efke IR820 Aura<br> Ilford SFX 200<br> Rollei IR 400</p> <p>As well as<br> Ilford XP-2 (Chromogenic C-41, but still technically b&w)</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 <p>Don't forget though you will have to decide on one developer for these films you are going to use.... May I suggest Xtol or D-76 or HC-110 and if them... use them one shot... So this is your project not nothing more than that but remember to take notes on lighting too... as some developers and even ways to use others with dilution and agitation will change things... :) </p> <p> One hell of a project.. ohh use the same reel/tank/water for every film and same timer and thermometer. The thing is keep it exact... LOL I do not have that luxery as I doubt you do ... So though scientific.. not exactly proof of anything.. :)<br> IR films are well not included as the filters the time of day season and they are more or less just on a Sunday after the last second Wednesday to decide.... Many Kodak Surveillance and still sold AGFA films as the Rollie films are are IR almost or as I love to say Extended red but not High speed.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 <p>You could build an extensive matrix when including various developers. To simply soup everything in one developer, would be somewhat pointless. </p> <p>Do they still make Bergger? Konica?</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 <p>Booger oops Bergger was always re-branded, and no Konica left...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_hirschfeld Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 <p>Thank you for your help, I will post pack with updates about the project, and thanks for help with the films and especially the developers! thanks. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicaglow Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 <p>Yeah, I felt the same way Larry. Don't touch the emulsion; it might fall off.</p> <p>Okay, how about Maco, Efke, Lucky, Tasma (or Tazma?), Foma, Forte, Ferrania/Solaris, Gigabit, Svema (sp?). I can't keep track of what is re-branded though.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Gammill Posted December 4, 2011 Share Posted December 4, 2011 <p>I don't think the Forte is made anymore. The Fortepan films, IIRC, were also sold as Classic Pan. The Fortepan 200 was often compared to Bergger's 200, but I don't know if they are the same film or not. The Bergger was often compared to Kodak's Super XX film. I tried some of the Fortepan 200 once and found it grainier than most ISO 400 films, but it did deliver some nice tones.<br> You might compare times on the Massive Development chart. If two different brands have the same developing time, that might be a clue that one is rebranded, but again it doesn't really prove it. </p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
francois_p._garnier Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 <p>Just another addition to the list: Agfa Copex Rapid (fresh production by Agfa-Gevaert, Belgium).<br> In combination with its dedicated special developer Spur Modular UR New an outstanding material:<br> With 35mm Agfa Copex Rapid film you get medium format quality, with 120 Copex film you almost get large format quality. And that with a relative high speed of ISO 40-50. And excellent tonality.<br> Available e.g. at www.generalphoto.biz , www.macodirect.de , www.ars-imago.com</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_quinn2 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 <p>ORWO<br />It is just in rolls and you will have to load your own.<br />Perhaps another member could ship you a few for the test.<br />I have used it in the distant past.<br /><a href="http://www.orwona.com/b-w-motion-picture-camera-films/">http://www.orwona.com/b-w-motion-picture-camera-films/</a><br> and some more info<br> <a href="http://www.filmotec.de/?cat=23&lang=en&lang=en">http://www.filmotec.de/?cat=23&lang=en&lang=en</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_quinn2 Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 <p>More ORWO info.<br> <a title="Reload this Page" href="http://www.apug.org/forums/forum37/98586-orwo-n75-plus-400-35mm-film-test.html">ORWO N75 Plus 400 35mm Film Test</a></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 <p>Brian the OP was requesting 120 film.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian_quinn2 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 <p>Opps, I forgot that.<br> Thanks for pointing that out Larry<br> Maybe some 35mm shooter will read this.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a._valerio Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 <p>There is also Kodak T-Max P3200.</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larrydressler Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 <p>That is not made in 120 A. Valerio. OP requested 120 films...</p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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