What are the six most important things you've learned from yopur participation in photo.net

"(1) Our tendency not to question the premises. For example, why "Six" most important things, why not more or less? Ellis should have provided the rationality of choosing number six, but we accepted number six and started responding. "

 

Rationale: 6 is greater than 5 and less than 10. In other words it was a semi-arbitrary decision. Lists of 5 are easy. lists of 10 tend to be padded. I could have said 7 but I chose 6 t omake people think a little more.

Yes, six is a good number.

 

1.) Seek out work you admire and exchange information/advice/opinions with those photographers, though the ultimate word lies with you on

your own

work.

 

2.) Be able to experience anything.

 

3.) Look for the positive in every photo you critique.

 

4.) You cannot critique them all, but be active in providing critiques for lots of others' work.

 

5.) Acknowledge everyone who critiques your photos, including any comments on your gallery page.

 

6. And last, but not least ... treat other the way you want to be treated.

Sure, Ellis, but if you'd made it 7 things I could have answered only 3 and been consistent with my anonymous ratings.

1) That it's my work to go make photos.

2) That I miss darkroom work.

3) That my silver work is still good, digital notwithstanding.

4) That digital is a great way to photograph.

5) That there are a whole lot of wayyyy more talented photographers than me, and I admire them.

6) That if a more expensive camera made better pictures, Mercedes owners would all be great drivers.

I learned that the photogaphers on photo.net are friendly and helpful.

1. Anyone can say anything over the internet. 2. People who sit and chat over photo.net are really interested in their

photographic equipment and to a great extent associate their value with the perceived value of their equipment. This

activity is self-sustaining and leads to increased consumption on photography equipment. 3. People can be incredibly rude

when communicating with strangers over the internet. 4. Many people have difficulty in understanding cultural and regional

differences and subjective preferences. 5. On photo.net, one can learn to appreciate the many seemingly conflicting

absolute truths that different people have. 6. Never believe what people say about your image over the internet.

I don't want to repeat what preceding posters have said, but I will throw this one out there!

1) Shoot and process to please youself.

2) The 3/3 too 7/7 ratings has a life of it's own.

3) Canon camera's are better then Nikon cameras.

4) Nudes really are boring.

4,1/2) Nudes are at the top of the most interesting lists.

5) Rules are made to be broken. Or Every opinion is altered in some way by someone elses bias.

6) ETC!

1)Cameras you hate turn out some good work

2) Not all "Plastic" cameras are bad

3) Bronicas are a lot better than I thought

4) I will try harder to respect plastic cameras

5) A $1,500 large format camera takes better pictures than a $4,500 digital

6) Threads can get too long

1) There are some incredibly stupid people out there

 

2) There are some incredibly smart, funny, talented, skilled and professional people (photogs) out there... it's a whole sub-culture I never knew existed.

 

3) Some people who are jerks are right... some people who are jerks are wrong... But none of them are really jerks, they are just jaded.

 

4) Equipment doesn't matter... until it does... and when it does matter, it REALLY matters.

 

5) The only people who complain about sharpness or needing L lenses are people who have been using a DSLR for less than a year.

 

6) I am a far better photographer than most of the worst, and a far worse photographer than most of the best.

 

7) (for good measure) Don't take anything you read on the internet at face value.

 

Aside from that... you guys are great here... after (nearly?) 2 years, i still enjoy coming back and bantering on the forums.

A couple more.

 

1) I would rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

 

2) 186,000 miles per second. It's not only a good idea, it's the LAW.

<i>To me, any photo in PN is equivalent of publication. And no reputable magazine/journal will publish any thing unless you provide key data.</i>

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You're reading the wrong magazines.

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<i>Again, I am asking for many of us, who are novice but eager to learn is to provide some key information (for whole portfolio/gallery): camera, lens, exposure, main digital manipulation tool.</i>

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The camera and lens make no difference. The "main digital manipulation tool" is almost invariably Photoshop. Happy?

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The main reason the usual "key information" on equipment or exposure isn't provided isn't because it's "below" anyone. The real reason is that it just isn't useful in any way. It's a waste of time and a distraction. Most of the time equipment is completely unimportant. And exposure is a thought process -- posting the end result of that process just isn't useful information.

proof read effectively

 

not have unstated assumptions

 

spell

 

not to take things personally

 

remember to read the question properly (not just the subject and first few lines)

 

:-)

I just noticed what Ellis was really asking. As shown below.

 

"What are the six most important things you've learned from yopur participation in photo.net"

 

I had no idea that YOPUR was participating in photo.net.

 

This makes all responses invalid.

1) PN is a great place to study photos.

2) PN is a great place to study human behavior.

Don't make vague claims or offer your opinion as fact.

 

Don't take things seriously or personaly.

 

Nudes are just porn in black and white, the hotter the model the higher the rating.

 

Film vs digital is one of the most cliche debates in the history of cameradom.

 

There are alot of very gifted photographers out there.

 

I am not one of them.

1 - most times, the process of posting a question itself reveals an answer.

 

2 - and yet the first answer to your post usually reveals the unclear thinking behind it even more

 

3 - if it is hard to express yourself in English avoid jokes

 

4 - a tool is just a tool

 

5 - I guess W. H. Auden wrote "If equal affection cannot be, Let the more loving one be me." In photo.net affection got replaced with generosity, and I learned that photographers from the entire world come here to enjoy photography, no matter if he/she asks or answers.

1- 6.1 mp's are all I need right now

 

2- The perfect backup for my D100 was another D100

 

3- Older pro Nikkors are perfect for me

 

4- I don't like raw

 

5- I don't like HDR

 

6- I want to be Igor Amelkovich's assistant.

1. How Flies Mate

2. Internet

3. Photoshop

4. Spell Check

5. What "sells"

6. "ideas" of "vision" are quite universal

1- Buy good glass 2- Know what the subject is you are shooting 3- Tne morning and evening can be the best times to take photographs 4-Take care of your equipment 5- Your equipment (camera) should be comfortable to you when you use it 6-Don't try to keep up with the newest camera it will take you broke.

1. Software (raw converters and incamera processing) make it really hard to determine the true quality of a lens.

 

2. f/8 seems to be the sweet spot on a lens in regards to depth of field sharpness.

 

3. I've found and am surprised after having not read a fiction/non-fiction novel in several decades, my typing and

communication skills have noticeably improved since posting and reading threads on this forum.

 

4. I now know, after seeing all the wonderful photography posted here, I'm not going to be a pro photographer.

 

5. Learned that you can get a since of the character of a website such as this one just by spending some time, maybe WAY to

much time. But it's the first time I've ever felt I'm among like minded people.

 

6. If you stick around long enough someone will eventually post some unusual and rare information you hadn't read before.

1. I know nothing.

2. My knowledge of photographic art, equipment, and technique is less than nothing.

3. Regardless of 1 & 2, above, I have brass batzim (pronounced with long 'a').

4. Given 3, above, I'm willing to keep engaging in shooting pictures and posting them on PN.

5. Given 1 & 2, above, I freely and fully acknowledge that most PN posters know more than me.

6. Given 5, above, I freely, fully, and gratefully acknowledge most PN posters as my teachers.