hussain_al_lawati

Hi all After Nikon released its beast, the D850, and Sony released the A9, the question comes: is it worth it to think about the Canon 5d IV or no (as a person wanting a camera upgrade)? I am an intermediate level photographer (not a blind beginner nor a pro) and i've been a Canon shooter for more than 5 years and I love their ergonomics. Now, when thinking to grab a new Full Frame body, I think of the 3 beasts: A9, D850, 5DIV. Lets keep the A9 aside since its lenses are not affordable to me $!. I shoot events, sports and studio mostly, and landscapes and sometimes family pictures. I need the camera to have good ISO capabilities in low light. Obviously, the D850 with a grip beats the IV with extra 2 fps (for action photography), but for studio work i think there will be no noticeable difference. I won't need the extra megapixles in the D850 since i won't print my pictures larger than A3 (correct my if i am wrong and they will be useful in cropping pics). I have read a lot of reviews and comparisons and all said both cameras' focus is amazingly fast, but regarding the DR and ISO in low light, some went to the IV and some to the D850. Now, am really in confusion what to get. I really love canon ergonomics and i am used to their system. Either i get the d850 and get all Nikon glass, or stick to canon and get the 5div with its glass and wait for a new camera for canon after 5 years that will hopefully beat Nikon and offer better pixel count and fps rate. This purchase will be critical to me since i have just one full frame canon lens (50 1.4) and by this purchase i will get a 70-200 and something wide 24-105 or 24-70 so i should take a wise decision.

Unfortunately, i dont prefer getting my cameras and lenses online since i live in oman and the shipping costs are highly expensive. Thank u for the good lens suggestions. Noted them I am also thinking about the D850, as a pirmary camera instead of the 5div. TBH i love canon and their ergonomics. But since i have only one canon full frame lens (50 1.4) i can easily shift to nikon. this change will be critical because i will be getting expensive lenses for either brand that will last with me for YEARS! Now, am really in confusion what to get. Its obvious that the d850 beats the 5div for sports photography, and for studio work i think there will be no noticable difference. Either i get the d850 and get all nikon glass, or stick to canon and get the 5div with its glass and wait for a new camera for canon after 5 years. Your suggestions will help me alot, thanks in adv advance!

I agree. But if I consider another body i would look for another semi-pro dslr or mirrorless that will cost a lot and be above budget!

Thank you Mark for your Reply I am sorry i haven't checked the forum for too long, nor still bought any new camera. I just finished my last year in high school and was to busy. Anyways,, coming back to our main topic We will be at least two primary shooters so am not alone Ofcourse the 150-600 is a future plan. as soon as i get comfortable with the new system i will grab one.

Thank you jdebever ofcourse, a macro is needed :)

Hello everyone Current Gear a canon 650d, with 18-55, 55-250, and 50 f1.4. Also i have two 430ex speedlites. My main interests are in weddings/events photography, studio work, sports (a focal length of 200 to 250 on a full frame is enough for my need) and sometimes landscapes. - I have kept in mind the "beast" 5d iv with a 70-200 2.8 and a 24-70, but unfortunately i can afford only the camera and one of the lenses at the current time. - Another choice is to go for the mark 4 kit with 24-105, and add a 70-200 2.8. ( - One more option is to look for a lower camera such as the 6d or a crop body with both the 70-200 2.8 and the 24-70 (i dont prefer this option since i want to keep on with my new camera for almost 10 years.) What u guys advise me to go for? If i went for the mark 4 with a 70-200 f2.8, what other lens u advise of (a bit cheaper than the canon 24-70)? Thanks in Advance

<blockquote> <p ><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=5331729">David Stephens</a> <a href="/member-status-icons"><img title="Subscriber" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/sub8.gif" alt="" /><img title="Frequent poster" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/1roll.gif" alt="" /></a>, Aug 05, 2016; 12:27 p.m.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>Start with the EF 24-105mm f/4L IS and the EF 70-200mm f/4L IS and an EF 1.4x TC-III. The 5D3 will be superior to the 6D for birds and sports; otherwise, the 6D has slightly better high-ISO performance. For birds and sports, the 5D3's superior AF trumps the slight disadvantage at ISOs over 3200.<br> .......<br> .....<br> Shot taken with EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II, at 312mm, hand held, on 5DsR (click on image to go to Flickr and see full-screen):</p> </blockquote> <p>Dear David<br> Thanks for the detailed information.<br> I see that f/4 won't be enough in the (70-200 and 24-105) as i have tried using it in my events and football fields at night and missed lots of shots<br> Dont you think"trying" a field and seeing if a have interest in it would cost me much more, because i will need to buy more lenses after my first purchase? Instead, what lenses you suggest that can help me with all those fields of photography?<br> Thanking you</p>

<blockquote> <p ><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=23754">Robin Smith</a><a href="/member-status-icons"><img title="Subscriber" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/sub10plus.gif" alt="" /><img title="Frequent poster" src="/v3graphics/member-status-icons/2rolls.gif" alt="" /></a>, Aug 05, 2016; 09:48 a.m.</p> <p>The 6D is a better buy for general use in my opinion. You get equivalent, or ever so slightly better image quality than the 5DIII at a much keener price ($1000 less) in a smaller and lighter body (although the 5DIII has an extra 2 MP), However, if you really will be tracking fast moving objects (birds, sports) the 5DIII is the better option because its AF system is more sophisticated. Having said this, I take a lot of indoor sports and dance and I manage with the 6D just fine, but it would be better with the 5DIII. You should be aware that a new 5D is expected to be announced this month, so you may want to wait to see what is coming, although it will certainly cost >$3000.</p> </blockquote> <p>Dear Robin,<br> Thank you for your response<br> I think that the new 5D would be much more above the budget.</p>

<blockquote> <p ><a href="/photodb/user?user_id=8711591">Dave Mockford</a> , Aug 05, 2016; 05:36 a.m.</p> </blockquote> <blockquote> <p>You say you are looking at a 60D, I guess you mean a 6D as the 60D is a crop sensor camera.</p> </blockquote> <p>Dear Dave,<br> Yes, you are true. I mean the 6D</p> <p>Thanks</p>

<p>Hello<br> I am planning to upgrade to a full frame camera, 5dMKiii or 60D<br> I photograph events, family, travel, birds, sports and some landscape. Low light capability is really important. My budget is around 6500 $<br> Is the 5D really worth the extra money?</p> <p>And for the lens<br> I looked for the<br> - Canon 70-200 f2.8 II <br> - Canon 24-70 f 2.8 II (which might be above the budget)<br> - Tamron SP 24-70mm f/2.8 DI VC (I've read numerous reviews and found it is a better choice in respect to price and IS than the canon version)<br> - Canon 28-300 <br> - a sigma or tamron zoom lens of somewhere up to 500mm<br> - you appreciated suggestions.<br> - I can add a a 2x extender if i took the 70-200</p> <p>Can you kindly give your opinions</p>